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  1. Just like previous winters, this one has the potential to be a cold one if all of the pieces fall into place.

    The difference, IMO, in this winter is that it has the potential to be very cold indeed, perhaps on a par (dare I say it?) with 1978/79.

    Consider the factors that already appear to be in our favour:

    1) The probability of a highly negative GLAAM, which I don't fully understand but I gather that a highly negative figure can point towards a very blocked or very zonal pattern (see below).

    2) The distinct possibility of a -ve NAO signal for this winter, particularly later in the season.

    3) The fact that this winter falls within the Hale Cycle (although it could be next year.

    4) The fact that due to the cool and wet summer may result in lower soil temperatures.

    However, all of these positives may be overridden by the AO signal. If the AO is positive then we will be in for a 1988/89 style winter which was not altogther different from last winter :unsure: . Alternatively, if the AO is negative then batten down the hatches as it could be one to remember!! :D :unsure:

    I like the sound of a winter on par with 1978/1979

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    That would do me just nicely :D

  2. The PDO (Pacific Decadel occilation) has a large infuence on our weather, when not at neutral values, it esentially dictates the state of the PNA with a 70% correlation between the two and also to a lesser degree the AO, with a 30% correlation, this is a positive correlation, meaning that if the PDO is negative then the PNA will be encouraged to be negative as well rather than a negative correlation which would mean that the PNA would be encouraged to go positive.

    A negative PDO will typically see the following anomoly patttern on a sea surface temperature anomoly chart...

    http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/

    As you can see, a negative PDO would typically favour a split Pacific Jet Stream and Alaskan Trough.

    As well as having another positive correlation with the ENSO state, it can aid in the development or hindrance of developing ENSO events.

    Seen as though i am expecting near neutral conditions and La Nina looks only to be a weak affair, giving only a slight bias towards a negative PNA and AO, i think that the QBO will be the most important teleconnection this winter, giving a fairly large bias towards a negative AO.

    and a negative AO should hopefully lead toa cold winter, thanks for the info, although i do not understand every word im learning gradually, vizzy

  3. I would say the current anomolies would mean a value of around -0.5.

    Unfortunately, we had nearly the same pattern in the Pacific last year, so plenty of time for things to change, though it would indicate an amplified Pacific Jet Stream if things held.

    It is possible that we are now entering a negative PDO cycle, if you plot the data for the past thirty years, you can see a tendancy towards a more negative PDO especially in the last ten years, suprisingly, if you do the same thing for the AO over the last thirty years, you see a fairly high correlation between the two.

    Since June, we have observed PDO values of no more than 1 either side, the ast time we had a run of nine neutral months was June 2004 to February 2005, though this run began in May 2003, though on average, we are observing values around 0.5 and 1 lower than the first nine months of that cycle.

    Based on this, i am going to make a little prediction for each month of the rest of this year and the winter months of 2008...

    April: Neutral to negative PDO

    May: Neutral to negative PDO

    June: Neutral to negative PDO

    July: Neutral to positive PDO

    August: Neutral to negative PDO

    September: Neutral to negative PDO

    October: Neutral to positive PDO

    November: Neutral to positive PDO

    December: Neutral to negative PDO

    January: Negative PDO

    February: Neutral to negative PDO

    Unfortuanely, with the PDO set to be near neutral for the remainder of this year, and the ENSO also neautral at the moment, this means that the QBO and AO are the major players at the moment, though to me, both look favourable for next winter.

    could you plz tell me how the PDO effects our winters? thanks

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