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  1. Sorry for my stupidity but but for snow and colder weather in the south do we need warming or a drop in the stratosphere temperature?

    My guess would be colder but is that the obvious answer?

    Strangely not. I believe a warming of the stratosphere would split the polar vortex allowing high pressure to build in the arctic increasing our chances of a colder shot from the north/east. We have an VERY cold stratosphere at the moment and that's what causes the typical low pressure moving west to east over the British Isles keeping us away from the coldest weather. Still a learner so please correct me experts if this is misleading or incorrect.

    Regarding last Nov/Dec cold spell did we have a SSW prior to this, if so when and was it a major warming?

    Vizzy

  2. No mate, it only effects weather patterns in the short term as it fluctuates up and down. Its basically represents the pressure patterns in the Atlantic, so if we have High pressure over Northern Atlantic towards Greenland ( not a Greenland surface high ) and lower pressure down towards the Azores then that's a negative NAO and favors colder weather for us. Positive NAO is pretty much the opposite and is the normal typical zonal weather we see here with lower pressure in the Northern Atlantic and higher pressure towards the Azores.

    So if we see the NAO drop negative then it increases the chance of snow in the short term and will not affect years ahead. Hope this helps. I'm only a novice and im sure someone could explain it better.

  3. That's kinda odd.. I'd expect York to have an air frost more then us..

    I use York university's weather station. Its very high tech and would be surprised if its wrong. Played golf in York this morning and it certainly wasn't as frosty in York as it was here near Malton. Strange one really :S

    Just noticed Linton on Ouse 8 miles northeast of York official Met Office weather station got down to -2.7Cat 5am. Must be an error with the University's station.

  4. In North Yorkshire the North York Moors is defiantly the best place to be, high elevation and very exposed to both Northerly and Easterly winds. After that the Yorkshire wolds can receive massive accumulations of snow whereas the vale of York can sometimes have 50% less. Last December we had 13 inches in York, whereas Thixendale in the wolds 18 miles east had 24 inches. Last winter Westerdale in the North York moors received 44 inches during November and December which is just mind blowing.

  5. Could have gotten an air frost here, but of course, wind or cloud ruined the chances! If this type of thing is gonna occur every clear night then I get the feeling that December will be air frost free! (okay, so that's unlikely, but still!)

    You seen radar mate? Could be something wintry anywhere with elevation near you.

  6. I think that while we are all looking for the next pattern change, we are missing the fact that almost no rain looks to fall in eastern England for the next week or so. Exceptionally dry.

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    Glad to have a dry week here. Our garden is a mudbath and extremely saturated. 18z ensembles still keeping the cooler trend with more members going even colder in F.I. Mean still around average but still positive signs heading into the latter part of the month. Also worth noting that the pub run is on the warm side throughout the run.

  7. If we are still getting Southerlys by 240hr il be very surprised. I think a pattern change is inevitable and by this time next week we will know exactly what will happen. Not sure exactly how accurate the ensembles are but for a few days now I've been watching them and a cooler trend towards the end of month is looking more likely. For Aberdeen the ensemble mean drops to near -5 hpa and for here around 0 hpa. This would suggest a northerly wind is most likely. Definatley going to be watching the charts closely over the next week.

  8. Frost data since 1999 here in York

    Ground Frost:

    1999: 5th October

    2000: 22nd October

    2001: 5th November

    2002: 13th October

    2003: 24th September

    2004: 13th November

    2005: 5th October

    2006: 1st November

    2007: 7th October

    2008: 3rd October

    2009: n/a

    2010: 17th October

    Earliest been 24th of September and lastest 13th of November so quite a big difference but usually the first 2 weeks of October is the most common.

    Air Frost:

    1999: 5th December

    2000: 15th November

    2001: 5th November

    2002: 19th October

    2003: 22nd October

    2004: 23rd November

    2005: 14th November

    2006: 3rd November

    2007: 16th November

    2008: 28th October

    2009: n/a

    2010: 25th November

    Earliest 19th of October and latest 5th of December. Most likely to have the first air frost here around mid November id say.

  9. Having looked through the ensembles from tonights 12z the operational from the GFS seems to be on the high side compared with the bulk of the other runs. There still appears to be a big dip as we head into October. Not sure what to read into this but a more seasonal feel could be on the cards during the first week in October.

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    Ecm maybe the first model to clock on to this cooler spell in October. Will feel very autumnal if that run verifys. May change but could be the start of trend, defiantly one to keep an eye on. All eyes on the 18z.

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