damianslaw

Oh to have another autumn like 1993 we can only hope, I cerrtainly don't want an Autumn like last year, however I have faith this year that we will not see a repeat of last year, helped in large part to the cool summer and lower SST's. In reply to the low minima, yes this is perhaps the most noteworthy statistic of the month so far, to get 2 days of cool minima so early in the month and slap bang in the middle of 'high summer' when we have often recorded both our highest maxes and minimas is very noteworthy indeed, long may they continue the heat of the weekend reminded me as to why I don't like heat i.e. could not sleep...

I suspect that we could see a higher CET value than now as we head through August but I expect the overall CET to not be much above average. But in overview August is looking appreciably better than June and July at this stage.

Okay I take the 27 degree reading for Newcastle airport, though perhaps it didn't reach so high in the city centre and surrounding suburbs, my location is Jesmond. It certainly felt very warm for a short period at 1 o clock and yes I would suspect that the temperature did rise very quicky from 12 till 1 but to 27 degrees i certainly didn't expect. As for a foehn effect well this was quite likely, however I would have expected other nearby stations to have recorded comparable if not higher temperature than 27 degrees.It is in this context that it certainly seems an odd value. I really hadn't anticpated seeing such a figure and I was beginning to think we might not even hit 25 degrees this summer. Today was expected to be warmer than yesterday, I am not sure of the official figure for the City but I very much doubt it was as high as yesterday, even so today not yesterday has for me been the first day where it has felt like proper summer and going by the forecast it could well be the last for a long while yet... With respect to my earlier message, the BBC are cnfirming the 30 degree value on the news, had the 'dubious' figure not been quoted would they have had a news item on today's weather, 30 degrees sounds so much more attention grabbing than 29 degrees.

I personally hope that 30 degrees hasn't been reached today, just because it is such a rarity these days for a summer to go by without this figure being reached and if any summer is going to do it then let it be this one. If the summer goes by without such a figure being reached I feel this would be very apt considering the poor synoptics we have had and would further cement in memory how poor a summer we have had.

I still don't believe these figures, can anyone else confirm that 27 degrees was reached today in Newcastle, weather online website says only 23 degrees.

Are you sure about the Newcastle figure? It certainly wasn't expected to reach any higher than 22 or 23 degrees here, although it has felt warm in the sun this afternoon, I would be very surprised if this figure has been achieved...

Despite the attrocious wet conditions and persistant cloudy dull weather, I am overjoyed at the below average CET and not just below but comfortably below at that. It has restored my faith in the hope that we can record some future below CET's in coming months and the upward trend of above average had not become set in stone. It certainly makes for an interesting 5 year period of July's, 3 of which have been considerably above average and 2 comfortably below none very near average.. Extremity is the new word..

I suspect this would be on a par with Sunderland's maximum where I work, but perhaps a little lower than Newcastle's where I live? But all in all what a shockingly woeful figure, no wonder I haven't yet had a day where I haven't needed to wear a jacket or coat! Perhaps we might record a 25 celsius this year?

Philip Eden in today's telegraph was saying that it will be the coldest July for England and Wales since 1993, for some parts it could even be the coldest since 1988, quite some feat in these times of rising temperatures... As for tonight and tomorrow night expect some very low readings for late July. Tonight could see widespread minima in north England and Scotland of around 8 degrees coldest in sheltered valleys where 5 degrees could be a average figure, indeed some places may record 2 or 3 degrees but I doubt anything lower but still for the 29th July quite cold indeed. For tomorrow night south of england and midlands will see a colder night whereas more northern areas won't be quite as cold as tonight. Again many inland parts of central southern england and Wales likely to see widespread minima below 10 degrees with some parts possibly recording 5 degrees locally below this. All in all wouldn't noramlly expect to see such low minima for another month or so...

I went for 16.7 for July and so I am going for 16.7 for August aswell. I think we may see some quite cool nights which will offset by and large a bias to mostly above maximum temperatures by day. I do not foresee a particularly warm month

Whatever the final CET will be at long last it will be a below average CET how very very very refreshing it has restored my confidence in the idea that we won't necessarily see month after month of continuously above CET values in this period of global warming. On a downside what a shame it has had to arrive in July, in my opinion it should have waited until September.

Yes certainly what I am looking out for now is a spell of below average months i.e. July August and September then perhaps a warmer October to be followed by a average November and then much colder than average December

I am going to stick my neck out and say with some confidence that we will record a below average month, I just don't see any sufficient sustained spell of weather that can help the CET to recover to above average temperatures. However, I think that it will only just be a below average month largely due to fairly mild nightime minima, had we seen high pressure exerting itself more readily towards the end of this week then I think we could have recorded some fairly chilly nights but although the end of the week will see some cooler minima i don't expect we will see anything that particularly cool.

30 degrees we'll be lucky to see 25 degrees at this rate here in Newcastle. Could anyone enlighten me as to the maximum temperature Newcastle upon Tyne has recorded so far this year. I wouldn't be surprised if this occured in April, I don't think we hit anymore than 21 degrees in June and less than that in May.

But wasn't it only two years ago that they were confident of a below average winter, so it is wrong to suggest that the METO will never forecast any below average seasons. I am hoping for a cooler autumn than we have had for many a year can't remember the last really below average autumn, at least that will help to lower sea temperatures and perhaps set us up for a early cold spell just in time for christmas. It would be good to see a disturbed Septmember quickly replaced by an anticyclonic October. Can't think about winter too much just yet, lets think about the Autumn first! I'm beginning to loose hope with this summer so my thoughts are naturally turning to Autumn right now much much earlier than in previous summers-quite refreshing really...

Quite surprised to see figures for Scotland and N England coming in at just above average. Is is the high minimums that have caused it as maximums haven't been that great.

Yes indeed normally we expect to see the highest recorded maximum for the year sometime from mid-late July i.e. from about the 18th through to early-mid August i.e. about the 13th. The 18th July-13th August is high summer for me, if we are not to record 30 degrees during this period it would be quite unusual indeed.

How refreshing it is that at this stage in the month we are seriously considering that we could actually be about to record a below average CET shock horror! We've become so accustomed to having to put another above average month in the bank at ridiculously early points in any given month in the last few months. This month feels very very different to any other month since last August

Thanks for those figures, very interesting and yes they show how poor the month was for much of scotland particularly the east. When talking about the CET living in Newcastle I don't pay much attention to what it is doing as it very rarely reflects on average mean temps here. It is a useful tool for making statistical comparisons and comparing temperatures from previous years but really only of interest for those living in the CET zone.

Yes lets have a cool wet september for a change I can't remember the last time we have had one of these, then I would like a sunny frosty october followed by a cold november. I feel like it is the end of august at the moment and we are looking into autumn not early July..

Amazing statistic emphasising emphatically that for Tyne and Wear June 2007 really was quite terrible, not one day hit above 21 degrees and the dullness has made it certainly feel like the depths of winter at times.

This summer is beginning to have the same effect that a mild wet winter has on those looking for more 'seasonal' conditions i.e. we are beginning to get excited at even the mere chance of just one fine day under a temporary ridge, much like many of us feel about the chances of a similiar but cold dry day in winter. However, strangely enough provided we can gather at least 1 week this summer of good fine warm conditions I am quite happy for the unsettled conditions to remain, it makes a change from recent summers of heatwave and drought conditions something that we are told we will have to get used to in the future, so why not at least make the most of an unsettled wet summer now as we may not if the global warmers believe see many comparable to which in the future.

These statistics are really crazy and should be emphasised strongly in any review of the month. June 2007 for Tyne and Wear has been and i will re-iterate absolutely shocking, even with the dry first 10-11 days it has been the dull grey skies that have made it so unappealing and unsummery, it is like living in January!

The BBC weather presenter John Hammond just mentioned don't be surprised to see some flakes of snow in the highlands tomorrow, this emphasises the cold conditions we are under right now..