Nick L

Just watched the first part and thought it was garbage to be honest lol. Way OTT, unnecessary sound effects and just a complete dramatisation of what the UK should experience every now and again. Give us another episode of a Very British Storm Junkie instead please Channel 4!

Well you must have had locally high dew points, because I for one had snow for 2 weeks. And most in southern England had snow for at least a week. But the Big Freeze title is OTT. The late Dec/early Jan was more of a big freeze, I don't think anyone can deny that that spell WAS very cold.

Yup, so a sub 3C MONTH has been achieved, but a sub 3c CALENDAR month hasn't - but this winter has proved that it can happen and it will almost certainly happen again. When? Who knows. The 3C January was close, but we will get a sub 3c month somewhere. And if I remember rightly, Mr Data pulled out a statistic that there was a 70 day period or something like that of sub 3c temperature. So we were quite unlucky really not to get a sub 3c calendar month.

Remember, the snow probably wouldn't last as long with it being in March. Once the sun gets to it then it will melt very quickly. The sun is considerably stronger at the start of March than it is at the start of February, so the chances of snow lasting a week is quite slim compared to the Feb event. But it all depends on cloud cover of course.

Yeti posted plenty of these earlier on in the thread I think.

I don't think Spring is that early to be honest, I think it is bang on cue. Signs of Spring in nature haven't really got going yet, the daffodils are starting to show up, but it's far later than recent years.

I have a south facing window, and the sun shines in all day. And for some reason my room never cools down, even with windows open it just keeps heating up. 25c at the moment in the shade in my room and I am sitting in the sun! It's effectively a greenhouse. That's why I dislike summer!

The sun shining through my window is making it uncomfortably warm. I hate this weather, especially in winter.

And yet aren't some people still arguing this?!

Well 2007 can't have been far off it, flooding that you don't normally see even in winter should classify it as a poor summer in anybody's eyes. 2008 wasn't awful, but the incredible lack of sun was a real downer.

I hope you meant F! But yeah I remember that, one week it was crazily warm and the next we were covered in snow! Spring is a mad season.

The warm nights are the worst part of summer by far. At least for the past 2 years we haven't had to suffer it!

The title of this thread made me laugh. Conor, I think it's a joke to mock the modern winter thread. But I love the "modern summer" - cool and wet, I hate the heat! But a little more sunshine than last year though.

Just been out playing football and I was surprised at how warm it was. I hate it when it's like this. Because you have a combination of the very muddy pitch and the warmth. But Spring is definitely in the air, still no daffodils properly coming through yet though.

Thanks for that link, now I don't need to keep asking! In that case, I shall predict the continuation of the cool-cold months at 5.6c.

Is that 71-00 or 61-90?

I can't remember having so many frosts before, have had several ice days this winter as well. Snow in my area wasn't really anything special though. But the snow in Somerset definitely was!

I suppose. But you would have thought that temperatures would have at least loosely followed the cycle. Not wildly fluctuating and then being cold at the bottom of the cycle each time.

The thing about the Hale cycle though, is that surely winters would get progressively colder and progressively warmer, going with the solar cycle? This hasn't happened. 05/06 was cold, 06/07 was exceptionally mild, 07/08 was also mild, and now we have suddenly gone to cold again. It doesn't make sense IMO.

Sorry my bad. I meant I didn't agree with your statement "maybe this is as a cold as british winters will get in a warmer world?".

January CET came in at 3.0c, 0.8c below the 1961-90 average, I would call that pretty decent myself! Cheeky Monkey I disagree. As others have pointed out, we haven't had the "dream synoptics" of days gone by, and as somebody else put it, we have had our fair share of marginal events that went the right side of marginal - something which hasn't happened the last 2 winters. If we get the dream synoptics some day, then perhaps we could see an old style winter? I think it has proved that even with less favourable synoptics, we can still get a decent winter - and 2008/09 has been a decent winter.

Well the fact that we have got a 3.0c month shows that it is very possible to get a sub 3c. It's only 0.1c! I am just glad that we have a below average winter, as CET alone will not prove/disprove any warming.

Yeah sub 3 is becoming very unlikely by the looks of, barring a remarkably cold final week.

http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran?type...=eng&to=wel Some bits aren't translated properly and it probably won't be perfect but it's something! Great post Dartmoor Matt. I can't even remember the reasons for the Scottish Met Office anyway!

For the US? Or globally? Either way, that's understandable because both options are considerably bigger than the UK! As long as the figure eventually is announced I don't really mind, but it certainly is odd.