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I probably won't be happy either haha, still can't see it snowing here

This is what we need to keep those temps down to a minimum, evaporative cooling is fantastic

Yeah that seems a little strange, either an error, or coastal modification, so snow less likely here?

That is VERY surprising! And indeed exciting

Hahaha, there was a weather, it was at 11:29, wasn't very good tho, need a North West weather!

I take it back, just took the dog and the wind chill is about minus 5, gusting to 30-40mph in the open here. I'll watch it now man! Cheers

Nah it looks alright to me, have a look here. Nothing to worry about http://www.xcweather.co.uk/

My heart sank a little when I saw last night's 00z, the colder air has been pushed northwards by a good 50 miles, with agreement on this morning's 06z. Really isn't looking good, that Met Office warning will most likely be revised later, wouldn't be surprised if it was taken off completely, but gut feeling is it'll get pushed northwards. Isn't even windy here, xcweather shows Manchester with nothing more than a stiff breeze either.

Should the jet stream move northwards, allowing the Azores High to build, it could well move north eastwards and give us a settled spell of weather. Granted that there aren't many, if any solutions which bring this into play, but it's always a possibility. I don't know about you, but I'd take a cold, crisp & sunny Christmas over a rainy, Atlantic-driven Christmas any day of the week? This being said, it's December 11th, Christmas day itself is two weeks away, and this is well beyond the reaches of high resolution, bringing it into the depths of FI. I think for now, attention should be drawn to the short term, especially as we have a frontal system bumping into some colder air tonight, in ADDITION to drawing colder air in with it. This will give many northern areas of the UK a snow event, for a short while at least. I'd focus less on Christmas until it's within the 5-7 day range, where a general idea can be drawn as to what the weather may be like on that particular day.

Some slush on the ground, must of hailed/snowed during the night

Hahahah, I have never had a dodgy sensor! That's just you ahaha

Now that the models are beginning to firm up on Friday's event (sort of) confidence is growing of a widespread snow event from the northern flank of the front, although it would be favorable if moves 50 miles further south, to ensure that colder air really digs in. Still a little far off yet, but I'd expect 2-5cm even to lower ground, 10cm+ above 250m

Thanks guys! I've decided to opt against this as the model with the wind, rain etc sensors is only another £20!

Haven't had any decent showers here today, just a bit of drizzle! Winds weren't that strong either.

Hey, I need a new weather station, I was just wondering what anyone thinks of this? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2555199.htm#pdpFullProductInformation Anyone know if it will tell me the dewpoint when plugged in to my laptop too? Cheers.

A little consistency from the GFS from the past few runs now for some light snow as colder air undercuts a front on Thursday night into Friday morning, so perhaps a back edge feature to look out for. But that being said, the upper air still does not look great. Interestingly, it also gives almost all of northern Britain (away from the coasts) an ice day to look forward to on Saturday after recovering from a very harsh frost on Friday night. Should this materialize, ice will become an issue I suspect. A little too far out to say just now, but I'm looking forward to Friday & Saturday! This is also interesting:

Heavy rain for the best part of 30 seconds haha! Still hammering it down now, wind seems to be getting up a little too. Shame it won't last, this is the start of the reintroduction of colder air now after this moves through; temperatures will probably fall around 3-4C by around 10pm

The upper air is never colder than about -4C on the latest GFS, ECM only runs for 12:00 each day, I fail to see any potential, there wasn't any there in the first place unfortunately.

Not really much squall left in it! Most of the energy is vanishing from it's south western flank and transferring northwards.

Yes, but look at the surface temperatures & DP's for that time frame. Not supportive of snow.

Yeah exactly mate. The uppers were very diluted by the time they arrived, and with the Atlantic still recovering from the warmest yer on record, it'll need something with a little more 'oomf' from the north west I suspect this year, especially in December. Come January or early February, maybe it'll deliver from that direction!

I'm probably not even 20 miles from the coast, probably a little closer! I suspect the wind will be very strong for your location! As posted above, the wind will probably mix out any evaporative cooling effects, but it depends really, we'll see. Literally everything has to be PERFECT for us to get snow. The likes of North Eastern England have it so easy compared to us. A bit of an easterly and they get pasted! We get a NW'erly and we get rain, it's a joke.

I'm really surprised that your 300m of elevation wasn't enough to land you a decent few snow showers, or at least a dusting to wake up to, There must of been a warm sector or something, either than or you simply didn't get the intensity. Sleety rain and hail is all we got here, but I'm only 50m asl and I'm about 20 miles from the coast.

You beat me to it

I think most of us WITH ELEVATION will see something WINTRY this week, but as I said last night, the uppers aren't supportive enough for low level snow, perhaps some sleety showers similar to yesterday.