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Must admit, being slightly sceptical that Leith/Embra will pick up much over the next 12-18 hours. We've had most of the pre-requisites it seems in place today, including being in the right general ENE-ish line of attack. Snowshield has seen everything go west, east, south, and north of us. Unreal sometimes ! If there's a bit more backing to the NE over time then even that will close the door just a little bit more. But...we'll see. Putting my faith in LS as always !
End of moan :-)
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It really does my freekin' head in [having a mini-TOORP here]
However it's been happening since I started keeping a close eye on these things since the early-70s ... And by extension all the way back into the mists of time. Must be half a dozen factors that against us most of the time, but when I look at the radar it really does seem like the snow gods are just having a laugh at our expense.
Oh well end of mini-TOORP and let's see how the day goes here !
Pelting down here at the minute. Big fluffy flakes mixed with graupel. Won't last long though. If only we could tap into some more of this! There's plenty out there - just need the track to change ever so slightly! Typical Edinburgh that even with showers moving in from the east places further west are getting more snow!
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That's more like it ... Heavy grauple now, everything white in double-quick time and blowing about on the streets like a scene from Siberia. More of the same please !
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Same here in Leith I can see Fife from our top-floor window and its all white there. Nothing here at all though. Theres plenty cloud coming in and radar looks reasonable. But nowt happening. So aye, Leith snow shield operating at close to 100% efficiency...
lol, you couldn't make it up really
Not a sniff here (certainly at the moment)... I think the Perth snowshield is the only one that's had it's batteries fully charged in anticipation for today!!
Fingers crossed we get something decent here later... but to everyone who is getting a little of the white stuff, enjoy!!!
Tim
Go figure eh Joe....drives us crazy!
Showers to the west and east but Embra been dry since 8am
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Whilst its quite possible this could end up being a dry-easterly for some of the technical reason described ... battle-weary kilters here are well aware how often the precipitation aspect of easterlies are mis-forecast by the met-office in particular.
I'd still be optimistic at this stage of seeing snow in Leith over the coming days, but we'll see. Certainly seems like March is going to drag out as a long cold one whatever the specifics.
Morning all, dull grey and wet, 4.2c.
So, finally, after a long winter of disappointment locally, it looks highly likely we will have the low 850s (sub -10c, along with sub 520 thicknesses) required for snow for my location in an easterly set up, with a 36 hour window of opportunity starting from 12z Sunday, approx. And the MetO puts the kabosh on the whole thing by insisting it will be dry throughout (until Tuesday when slightly less cold air will have removed the accumulating snow threat here).
My money is on LS (no pressure there, mate!).
You beat me to it there Hawsey, agreed !
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RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAMMMPPP !
Extended NMM model on meteocenter:
http://www.meteocent...rope.html#model
Uppers at 6am on Monday are -14C with the -15C line just grazing the Aberdeen coast. Heavy showers Sunday afternoon onwards right down the east coast, getting into the central belt too. Currently northeast England is the hotspot with nearly 36 hours straight of heavy snow but much of eastern Scotland has showers for 24 hours from Sunday midday through to Monday. CAPE (basically index of likelihood of thunder) is pretty high out in the north Sea too as one would imagine with a 20C temperature gradient, so thundersnow possible in places.
I think this might be one to remember for a long time...
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Optimistic that even Leithers might see some snaw out of the coming days. As much as I would be happy to see it, theres also something a bit cruel about cold weather at this time of year...getting close to 12 hours of daylight but with almost mid-winter cold can mess with the heid and the soul a wee bit !
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Aye, no coincidence I suppose that larger population centres tend to be in geographically and climatologically advantaged locations. Our ancestors weren't daft eh...
Still gives me a bad attack of TOORP though. When we were 90% of the way home and exiting a snowy Fife, I was thinking that there was no way Embra couldn't have been hit as well. Get to the Forth Bridge and a total reality check meets the eyes. Doh!
Anyway, not not too upset, we may yet have another bite at the cherry with an easterly it seems. But will all the elements be in place... Here we go again !
I think it's a mix of factors, including:
1) Urban Heat Island Effect
2) Coastal modification off the Forth and the North Sea during an easterly flow
3) topographical issues - being in the lee of the Pentlands and the Lammermuirs means precipitation totals are significantly lower than the surroundings with southerly wind vectors.
4) The same issues with northerlies that the rest of the central belt and mid Scotland has aka the Grampians.
5) proximity to sea level, certainly for the middle of the town and up towards Leith and Western parts too to an extent.
Its site may have done a good job of keeping the English out during the middle ages but it also does a very good job of keeping the snow out. Somewhere between an east and northeasterly wind is probably the ideal setup for here, which is actually the same for Freuchie, but without some of the added hang ups listed above.
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No entirely sure I understand all the factors in the Edinburgh snowshield but it definitely exists. We came back down the A9 from Boat of Garten earlier, heavy snow in poor visibility almost all the way until we got close to the north side of the Forth Road bridge. On the Embra side, visibility vastly improved, rain, and even on the higher parts of the bypass, in some places snow was completely absent.
Some kind of recurring geographical, topographical, micro-climatological thing going on there but whatever it is, its bloody effective at turning snaw into naw.
My garden at the moment, 4.5 inches on the grass apparently. Damned Edinburgh snowshield!
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Will keep an eye open for boy-racers
We're heading up to Boat of Garten for a few days, driving up Monday AM, and very much keeping a close eye on road conditions. Bound to get in at least a days ski-ing at Cairngorm as long as weather permits, but certainly no lack of snaw ... far from it.Right folks (well it's not left anyway); they're both right-wing authoritarian parties so you can blame them both:
http://www.political...g/ukparties2010
Take the Political Compass test yourself to find out where you sit on the spectrum - it's quite interesting and might make you think when next putting X's in boxes. Anyway, there's threads for discussion of such things in the Serious Discussion area of NW, both for Scottish and UK politics.
As for the snaw.....I'm off to Carrbridge in the Highlands today for a long weekend, so keeping an eye on this. Certainly, Drumochter's on the route and if needs be the hoose is only 10 mins from the Slochd summit.
Take the sledge? Mibbes dry or Mibbes snaw?
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Noticed that on my walk to work this morning. Lots of tweeting. First signs of spring in the male bird mind it seems !
was totally cloudy and rubbish first thing, bits of blue appearing now and the birds are starting to tweet
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Any remnants of the white stuff still hanging about from last week Catch ?
It is warming up a bit for cold and snow in a sense
Still no broadband, third time lucky with the order. I am hoping the nervous twitching dies down once I get into the third week without t'internet
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heehee - straying off topic I 'spose, but yes pretty busy, maybe 90+ folk there. Might catch you at one of these things sometimes.
(ahem) To put it massively back on topic, the weather felt cold as I came out the meeting. (cough)
Small world! I was planning on going to that but got bogged down with a maths assignment for tomorrow. All done now anyway. Was there a good turnout?
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Anyone else see the fireball tonight ? Just came out of a #YesEdinburgh meeting at 9 and saw what looked like a nautical flare cross the sky, brightly tracing across for several seconds. Put it down to a few local needs up to mischief. turns out it was a piece of space junk being reported UK wide!
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For any of us shore-dwellers who speculate what the definition of "coastal" can mean in these kind of marginal situations, theres the answer right there
Better luck next time I hope
Notable the extent of cover across Fife compared to how poor cover was across the Lothians.
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That was bizarre. Just a couple of hundred yards from the front door the heavens opened and then immediately followed by about 30-45 seconds worth of the most intense hail I've seen in several massive downdrafts - set off car alarms and everything...then stooped just as suddenly.. Turbulent above !
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The view across the Forth to Fife today made parts of it look like some arctic peninsula.
Snow fields of fife holding up remarkably well so far given the rain and general thaw today.
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Thanks for the snow report. Might be spring snow up there but it'll be good enough. Cheers !
Well, the view from the top windows says the north-facing Braids slopes are white - but whether that's sledgeable or slush-puppy I don't know!
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going to Aviemore in a couple of weeks ... looks like the forthcoming changeable spell will provide at least as much mountain snow as it takes away. That's fine, there's no "snow killer" on the horizon so ski-ing still looks assured into Feb.
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any Edinburgers on-line to report any snow retention in the higher/south parts of the city ? Can't gauge from Leith if The Braids snow bowl has held onto its sledging piste. I'm optimistic because it faces north at 500 ft ASL and *should* have collected more yesterday. BUt I can't tell from here so looking for any proxy report from the higher parts. Thanks...
All things being equal might just squeeze out another sledging day !
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Charts like that are a piece of artwork in my eyes. The isobars, the symbols, just beautiful. Its what drew me into such a passionate interest in weather almost 40 years ago. I really detest the dumbing down of met charts since then.
Old git rant over
The good Dr Maue just posted up this marine analysis chart 961 - 929, might be the same one you found early Mondy.
Pub run is up to something tonight in the lower regions of Hi Res and into FI..
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Plenty big-flaked wet snaw in Embra city centre (well this part of it anyway).
Got to be lying at points not much higher than this in Embra, so decent chance might get sledging up The Braids tomorrow after all.
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Yeah, gonna be an unpleasant cold rainy day here in Embra
Snow event, what snow event?? Raining with temp 3c in Edinburgh!!
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Hey LS, somewhat OT but I see that Edinburgh Uni has climbed to 8th place in this UK wide league table.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/sugar-daddy-website-faces-investigation-1-2752192
We're heading up to Boat of Garten for a few days, driving up Monday AM, and very much keeping a close eye on road conditions. Bound to get in at least a days ski-ing at Cairngorm as long as weather permits, but certainly no lack of snaw ... far from it.
Scotland Regional Discussion 10/03/13 09z ------>
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Must admit, like yourself Hawsey, I find these local factors very frustrating. Big picture is this: bloody big relatively warm sea to the east, deep cold air above, dew points great, flow from east to west. In principle I don't see why there isn't a bloody Great Lake-effect up up down the entire coat - but in practice we end up scrambling about on the radar looking for blobs to hit us relatively infrequently ! Oh well...