London & South East Regional Discussion 14/01/13 18z ----->

[RUSH]

Listen mate i am from your neck of the woods - Morden & i am disappointed to say the least.

That man is on a complete windup and has been predicting 6 inches from last night and today and we know how that went dont we...

Where i am only stating facts & backing it up with the data available to help those who dont have a clue but want to know if it will snow which is understandable.

I know who's point i would listen to..

yeahhh i thoart that be a wind up ,was looking around the charts think no not sure about 6 inches .thank you for your point man

[Southender]

As I see it.

Ppn falling back in a SSW direction now.

Ppn entering Essex after midnight and London, Kent, Sussex perhaps Surrey a bit later.

Should be snow for most. Perhaps a bit of a wintry mix nearer windward coastal districts.

Heaviest ppn between 2-4am. Clearing up after with rapid temp drop and ice a concern.

Lucky spots under the heavy stuff and where it sticks may get 2-3cm.

Everyone else trace amounts.

Thats my view. Sorry if you dont agree.

[Downpour]

For those worrying about wind direction

This is a frontal system associated with an area of low pressure, the low pressure is adding forcing on the PPN pushing it SSW as it pivots round, rotating slightly as it does so. Wind direction is more important when looking at showers developing, rather than a frontal system.

I think 1-5cm is a pretty good estimate for most of our region.

Thanks. The radar seems to bear you out at 2215 Daniel. Keen to see the 2230 returns as they should tell us more.

[john pike]

lets see if anyone can see what is good about them fax charts

[abovefreezing]

Am I going to have to dig my car out again tomorrow morning, took me several seconds this morning to clear off the several meters of snow I had :-(

Electricity meters, or gas meters?

[Downpour]

As I see it.

Ppn falling back in a SSW direction now.

Ppn entering Essex after midnight and London, Kent, Sussex perhaps Surrey a bit later.

Should be snow for most. Perhaps a bit of a wintry mix nearer windward coastal districts.

Heaviest ppn between 2-4am. Clearing up after with rapid temp drop and ice a concern.

Lucky spots under the heavy stuff and where it sticks may get 2-3cm.

Everyone else trace amounts.

Thats my view. Sorry if you dont agree.

I think that forecast is about right. It will be a but random re: amounts. Generally better the further east you are although the band is varying in intensity throughout and some to the west may get lucky.

[abovefreezing]

lets see if anyone can see what is good about them fax charts

Looks like a slack north or ne'ly flow, jp, no?

[RUSH]

As I see it.

Ppn falling back in a SSW direction now.

Ppn entering Essex after midnight and London, Kent, Sussex perhaps Surrey a bit later.

Should be snow for most. Perhaps a bit of a wintry mix nearer windward coastal districts.

Heaviest ppn between 2-4am. Clearing up after with rapid temp drop and ice a concern.

Lucky spots under the heavy stuff and where it sticks may get 2-3cm.

Everyone else trace amounts.

Thats my view. Sorry if you dont agree.

thank you iam open to any point of view at this time mate nice thank u ....

[Blake7]

With that trough flowing down the east coast and out to the South East ?

[Ice Day]

As I see it.

Ppn falling back in a SSW direction now.

Ppn entering Essex after midnight and London, Kent, Sussex perhaps Surrey a bit later.

Should be snow for most. Perhaps a bit of a wintry mix nearer windward coastal districts.

Heaviest ppn between 2-4am. Clearing up after with rapid temp drop and ice a concern.

Lucky spots under the heavy stuff and where it sticks may get 2-3cm.

Everyone else trace amounts.

Thats my view. Sorry if you dont agree.

A very decent assessment. At least the hard bit is now over, we've got the cold here and by the looks of things it's not going anywhere fast!

[john pike]

looks about right

[Southender]

lets see if anyone can see what is good about them fax charts

I spot a trough...Perhaps some beefy showers later tomorrow then as it swings through our region..

Edited January 14, 2013 by Shrimper

[abovefreezing]

Dp now 2.2

Will it hit zero by the time the precip comes?

I think it might, just!

[RUSH]

Looks like a slack north or ne'ly flow, jp, no?

errrrrrmmmmm scratch head errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmm yeah north east'lly flow .................runs for coverrrr in bunker

[Alpine glow]

lets see if anyone can see what is good about them fax charts

The 528dam line heading straight through Brighton

[WillinGlossop]

http://www.meteoradar.co.uk/

Seems to be heading this way and maintaining itself over ea......

[london-snow]

yeahhh i thoart that be a wind up ,was looking around the charts think no not sure about 6 inches .thank you for your point man

More than welcome mate.

It just gripes me when those who are forecasting snowmageddon and are way off the mark. Fair enough if previous charts was showing this but when it does not its a pretty dumb and stupid statement to make. which leads to those less knowledgeable about the weather totally confused and leads to disappointment and bickering.

[Met4Cast]

looks about right

Looks worse than even last nights snowfall haha!

Alright, I change my 1-5cm estimation to 0.5 - 1cm

[john pike]

as i said earlier

watch the radar from 12 onwards

Looks worse than even last nights snowfall haha!

Alright, I change my 1-5cm estimation to 0.5 - 1cm

hi dan

dont worry about amounts they are only guides

just be nice to get it here first of all

[abovefreezing]

http://www.meteoradar.co.uk/

Seems to be heading this way and maintaining itself over ea......

Thats a good one to look at for the downers / moaners. Thanks!

[alexisj9]

lets see if anyone can see what is good about them fax charts

Ok, probably wrng, I think the first one confirms that the low does pivot and gives snow to places in the south east over night, also there is a trough just abouve east angler that may cause showers to track down the east of england as it tracks south.

[RUSH]

More than welcome mate.

It just gripes me when those who are forecasting snowmageddon and are way off the mark. Fair enough if previous charts was showing this but when it does not its a pretty dumb and stupid statement to make. which leads to those less knowledgeable about the weather totally confused and leads to disappointment and bickering.

yeah thats whot gets me going when talk it up with out useing there knowledge.nice

[manutdmatt1986]

lets see if anyone can see what is good about them fax charts

Nice embedded trough in the North Sea on Wednesday.

[john pike]

http://www.meteoradar.co.uk/

Seems to be heading this way and maintaining itself over ea......

thanks willinkent

was looking for that radar

[Southender]

As John has kindly posted. The latest fax charts show a trough swinging through tomorrow afternoon/eve. So if we get nowt tonight, theres something to look out for later tomorrow.