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Backtrack Accomplished

Backtrack

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  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy winters, hot, sunny springs and summers.
  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
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can't post a link but its on twitter, look on the meto page then find a reply to @chrisward. He's m45 postcode meto know the symbols are wrong!

@chrisward103 We do have a few issues with our symbols, but overcast/cloudy conditons can bring with it significant snowfall ^CM

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SnowObsessor90 Apprentice

SnowObsessor90

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  • Location: Cheshire
  • Location: Cheshire
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can't post a link but its on twitter, look on the meto page then find a reply to @chrisward. He's m45 postcode meto know the symbols are wrong!

Just read that tweet, I really hope that it isn't merely providing me with false hope lol

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SP1986 Accomplished

SP1986

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  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
  • Weather Preferences: Summer: warm, humid, thundery. Winter: mild, stormy, some snow.
  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
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If the UKMO model it, it will come! You will get it tomorrow, I am sure of it.

yep, it does look like you'll get alot there in Chester, potentially up to 15cm I think

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Snowfun Newbie

Snowfun

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  • Location: Trawden bb8
  • Location: Trawden bb8
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Thanks for tolerating my comments, feels like Christmas Eve

Going to get my head down and wait for Santa snow.

Lets see if I've been good or bad

Thanks again

Keep up the good work

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Backtrack Accomplished

Backtrack

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  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy winters, hot, sunny springs and summers.
  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
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We are having a few problems with the symbols for some areas, though overcast conditions can still produce significant snow
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Brass_Monkeys Newbie

Brass_Monkeys

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  • Location: Ashton-in-Makerfield, Wigan (60m/182ft asl)
  • Location: Ashton-in-Makerfield, Wigan (60m/182ft asl)
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Just went on the Met Office web site to see if there was any changes to the Wigan forecast, when I clicked on the forecast instead of the usual 5 day graphics I got this warning from the chief :)

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Lesley Johnson Newbie

Lesley Johnson

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  • Location: stockport cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: snow
  • Location: stockport cheshire
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OK we have about half cm here now, snow falling moderately, sky looks full of it, that orange glow.

KEEP GOING!!!!!!!!!

just blowing in the wind here but its been doing this for at least 4 hours no covering

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Snowmad79 Aficionado

Snowmad79

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  • Location: Sholver - Oldham East - 250m / 820ft ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Snowageddon and a new ice age. Then a summer long bbq heatwave!
  • Location: Sholver - Oldham East - 250m / 820ft ASL
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Does anyone know Manchester airports forecast

Full decoded TAF:

Location: EGCC

MANCHESTER - INTERNATIONAL - ENGLAND

Latitude: 53°21'13"N - Longitude: 002°16'30"W.

Magnetic declination: 2.34°W

Sunrise: 08:14 UTC

Sunset: 16:25 UTC

Report emitted the day: 17, time 17:06 UTC

Thursday 17 January 2013 17:06 Greenwich time.

The forecast valid time are from day of the month: 17 time: 18:00 UTC (Thursday 17 January 2013 18:00 Greenwich time) to day of the month: 18 time: 24:00 UTC (Saturday 19 January 2013 00:00 Greenwich time).

Wind: True direction = 130 degrees, speed: 10 knots (19 km/h) (5 m/s).

Runway 05L, length 10000 feet, altitude 212 feet: Cross Wind 10 KT Right - Centerline Wind 1 KT front.

Runway 05R, length 10007 feet, altitude 186 feet: Cross Wind 10 KT Right - Centerline Wind 1 KT front.

Runway 23L, length 10007 feet, altitude 227 feet: Cross Wind 10 KT Left - Centerline Wind 1 KT rear.

Runway 23R, length 10000 feet, altitude 249 feet: Cross Wind 10 KT Left - Centerline Wind 1 KT rear.

Minimum horizontal visibility: 10 km or more.

Clouds: A few (1-2 oktas), at 2000 feet above aerodrome level (610 meters).

Clouds: Scattered (3-4 oktas), at 4000 feet above aerodrome level (1219 meters).

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise temporarily:

From 18:00 UTC (Thursday 17 January 2013 18:00 Greenwich time) at 09:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 09:00 Greenwich time), Minimum horizontal visibility: 7000 m.

Following weather will take place with a probability of 40%:

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise temporarily:

From 18:00 UTC (Thursday 17 January 2013 18:00 Greenwich time) at 09:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 09:00 Greenwich time), Minimum horizontal visibility: 3000 m.

Weather: Light Snow .

Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 800 feet above aerodrome level (244 meters).

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise soon:

From 09:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 09:00 Greenwich time) at 12:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 12:00 Greenwich time), Minimum horizontal visibility: 5000 m.

Weather: Light Snow .

Weather: Mist .

Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 800 feet above aerodrome level (244 meters).

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise temporarily:

From 10:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 10:00 Greenwich time) at 24:00 UTC (Saturday 19 January 2013 00:00 Greenwich time), Minimum horizontal visibility: 1200 m.

Weather: Snow .

Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 300 feet above aerodrome level (91 meters).

Following weather will take place with a probability of 30%:

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise temporarily:

From 12:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 12:00 Greenwich time) at 19:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 19:00 Greenwich time), Wind: True direction = 150 degrees, speed: 15 knots (28 km/h) (8 m/s), with Gusts of maximum speed 25 knots (46 km/h) (13 m/s).

Minimum horizontal visibility: 300 m.

Weather: Strong Snow .

Sky is obscured -- vertical visibility cannot be assessed.

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Lesley Johnson Newbie

Lesley Johnson

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  • Location: stockport cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: snow
  • Location: stockport cheshire
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I wouldn't say just blowing in the wind, bit heavier than that.

nope just swaying in the wind here weird eh? some areas so close get different weather hope it goes well for tom for us

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raul_sbd

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  • Location: Glossop 165m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Snow
  • Location: Glossop 165m asl
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Raul Alonso @RaulAlonso197917

Jan@metoffice hello what's the fotecast for Altrincham tomorrow I need to travel by car..it shows dry on your websiteMet Office@metoffice

@RaulAlonso1979 Worst of the snowfall will be in Greater Manchester with elsewhere seeing lighter conditions ^CM

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Winter Monsoon Rookie

Winter Monsoon

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  • Location: Dukinfield 137m ASL
  • Location: Dukinfield 137m ASL
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Full decoded TAF:

Location: EGCC

MANCHESTER - INTERNATIONAL - ENGLAND

Latitude: 53°21'13"N - Longitude: 002°16'30"W.

Magnetic declination: 2.34°W

Sunrise: 08:14 UTC

Sunset: 16:25 UTC

Report emitted the day: 17, time 17:06 UTC

Thursday 17 January 2013 17:06 Greenwich time.

The forecast valid time are from day of the month: 17 time: 18:00 UTC (Thursday 17 January 2013 18:00 Greenwich time) to day of the month: 18 time: 24:00 UTC (Saturday 19 January 2013 00:00 Greenwich time).

Wind: True direction = 130 degrees, speed: 10 knots (19 km/h) (5 m/s).

Runway 05L, length 10000 feet, altitude 212 feet: Cross Wind 10 KT Right - Centerline Wind 1 KT front.

Runway 05R, length 10007 feet, altitude 186 feet: Cross Wind 10 KT Right - Centerline Wind 1 KT front.

Runway 23L, length 10007 feet, altitude 227 feet: Cross Wind 10 KT Left - Centerline Wind 1 KT rear.

Runway 23R, length 10000 feet, altitude 249 feet: Cross Wind 10 KT Left - Centerline Wind 1 KT rear.

Minimum horizontal visibility: 10 km or more.

Clouds: A few (1-2 oktas), at 2000 feet above aerodrome level (610 meters).

Clouds: Scattered (3-4 oktas), at 4000 feet above aerodrome level (1219 meters).

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise temporarily:

From 18:00 UTC (Thursday 17 January 2013 18:00 Greenwich time) at 09:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 09:00 Greenwich time), Minimum horizontal visibility: 7000 m.

Following weather will take place with a probability of 40%:

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise temporarily:

From 18:00 UTC (Thursday 17 January 2013 18:00 Greenwich time) at 09:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 09:00 Greenwich time), Minimum horizontal visibility: 3000 m.

Weather: Light Snow .

Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 800 feet above aerodrome level (244 meters).

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise soon:

From 09:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 09:00 Greenwich time) at 12:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 12:00 Greenwich time), Minimum horizontal visibility: 5000 m.

Weather: Light Snow .

Weather: Mist .

Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 800 feet above aerodrome level (244 meters).

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise temporarily:

From 10:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 10:00 Greenwich time) at 24:00 UTC (Saturday 19 January 2013 00:00 Greenwich time), Minimum horizontal visibility: 1200 m.

Weather: Snow .

Clouds: Broken sky (5-7 oktas), at 300 feet above aerodrome level (91 meters).

Following weather will take place with a probability of 30%:

The following weather phenomena are expected to arise temporarily:

From 12:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 12:00 Greenwich time) at 19:00 UTC (Friday 18 January 2013 19:00 Greenwich time), Wind: True direction = 150 degrees, speed: 15 knots (28 km/h) (8 m/s), with Gusts of maximum speed 25 knots (46 km/h) (13 m/s).

Minimum horizontal visibility: 300 m.

Weather: Strong Snow .

Sky is obscured -- vertical visibility cannot be assessed.

Now that has to be more current than anything. These are hugely important to aircrew and not liable to error winds getting close to limits for smaller aricraft there too(gusts)

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feb1991blizzard Maestro

feb1991blizzard

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
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I honestly believe we will do better on Saturday from the East.

Frustrating that the Marsden area (nearest east) on the Met office map has the snow symbol for most of the weekend but the Ashton under lyne one (just South West) has nothing for most of the weekend but little tweaks, im probably further east than most in my area anyway so i have a better chance as any, looking better than this time last night, not going to be a full on blizzard but could be a reasonable fall.

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Bartlett Low Newbie

Bartlett Low

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  • Location: Chorlton, Manchester
  • Location: Chorlton, Manchester
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Raul Alonso @RaulAlonso197917

Jan@metoffice hello what's the fotecast for Altrincham tomorrow I need to travel by car..it shows dry on your websiteMet Office@metoffice

@RaulAlonso1979 Worst of the snowfall will be in Greater Manchester with elsewhere seeing lighter conditions ^CM

Weird one that. Thanks for sharing.

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Stubbette Rookie

Stubbette

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  • Location: Cheshire, 5 miles from Manchester Airport as the 737 flies!
  • Location: Cheshire, 5 miles from Manchester Airport as the 737 flies!
Posted

It's been snowing since 4.45 in Knutsford - settled pretty much straight away, but not enough to call more than a dusting. But it's carried on and it's all covered (apart from a strip on the road from the enthusiastic gritter at 9.30pm!) with at least a cm at a guess. Only a few tips of the grass showing and it's still coming down. Getting the kids to sleep was fun... ;-)

Stubbette (a 'snow poster'!!!)

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wysiwyg Newbie

wysiwyg

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  • Location: Upton, Wirral (44m ASL)
  • Location: Upton, Wirral (44m ASL)
Posted

Now that has to be more current than anything. These are hugely important to aircrew and not liable to error winds getting close to limits for smaller aricraft there too

Yes that TAF makes good reading for the south of the region from midday onwards. I'd say they aren't buying wholly into the METO solution and considering very seriously the relatively consistent GFS in the short term

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Backtrack Accomplished

Backtrack

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  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snowy winters, hot, sunny springs and summers.
  • Location: Runcorn, Cheshire
Posted

Met Office going with the TAF. Just been lucky enough to receive this reassuring reply, hot off the press. :D



  • Cheers! Any chance you can tell me what the weather will be like in Runcorn tomorrow? (Halton).



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Snow flurries in the morning, with heavier snowfall forecast for the afternoon ^CM
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Rainy

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  • Location: LANCS. 12 miles NE of Preston at the SW corner of the Bowland Fells. 550ft, 170m approx.
  • Location: LANCS. 12 miles NE of Preston at the SW corner of the Bowland Fells. 550ft, 170m approx.
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Been snowing all evening here, light or very light. Thin covering on top of the partly melted layer which came Sun/ Mon..

Temp 0C. Sharpish wind, picked up now.

Pressure falling.

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Winter Monsoon Rookie

Winter Monsoon

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  • Location: Dukinfield 137m ASL
  • Location: Dukinfield 137m ASL
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OK midnight New24 forecast showed no snow over any part of the NW upto 14:00 on friday yet he then goes on to show the meto wanring that clearly shows the warning covering much of the south of the region upto manchester north and say 10cm possible??

Just lost all faith of the BBC weather forecast

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feb1991blizzard Maestro

feb1991blizzard

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  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall.
  • Location: Manchester Deansgate.
Posted

Downgrade again on Jay Wynne's forecast, the one half an hour ago had the snow in our region but just fizzled out on the 23.56 bulletin, only for it to magically reappear to the east of us on Saturday.

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Cheshire Freeze Maestro

Cheshire Freeze

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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
Posted

OK midnight New24 forecast showed no snow over any part of the NW upto 14:00 on friday yet he then goes on to show the meto wanring that clearly shows the warning covering much of the south of the region upto manchester north and say 10cm possible??

Just lost all faith of the BBC weather forecast

Yep those graphics were purely NAE based

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SP1986 Accomplished

SP1986

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  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
  • Weather Preferences: Summer: warm, humid, thundery. Winter: mild, stormy, some snow.
  • Location: Heswall, Wirral
Posted

The local NAE (a fairly high degree model) from the Irish sea observatory, shows precipitation missing the northwest.

http://cobs.pol.ac.uk/modl/metfcst/precip/latest.php?im=11

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