London & South East Regional Discussion 21st January 2013, 12z onwards

[john mac]

So how are we looking for a snowy breakdown atm?

[john pike]

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1317568--freak-thundersnow-wreaks-havoc-on-city

strewth

[alexisj9]

http://www.thestar.c...s-havoc-on-city

strewth

It's not from the low on it's way here is it?

[john pike]

Everyone thinks as the wind is coming from the south west here, it will be warm, but if your right JP we may be looking at one very big winter storm, will be interesting to see what unfolds here.

hi alexis

some fascinating weather incoming

if that low drops south

big problems

if it goes north it should start to pull a block over the atlantic and possibly the euro high over us

if it weakens and then retreats back west cold spell repeat soon after

lots of ifs and buts but thats why i am calling fi on the 26th

and that means every model

[john pike]

It's not from the low on it's way here is it?

hi alexis

no i do not think so but shows theres some strange stuff around at present

[Heretic]

Freezing fog devloping here. Roads are literally like an ice rink.

[alexisj9]

Freezing fog devloping here. Roads are literally like an ice rink.

Great news for the school run, will make sure I leave half hour early to be sure.

[yamkin]

A very cold night here at -4c

[john pike]

http://www.xcweather.co.uk/GB/observations

some cold ones there

-6 gatwick

[XLNC]

Temp -3.2 c - Dew -5.1 c

[yamkin]

There's ppn in the SW which is heading in ENE direction.

Worth keeping an eye on as it could veer towards the SE

[john pike]

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

http://www.sat24.com/nl?ir=True

There's ppn in the SW which is heading in ENE direction.

Worth keeping an eye on as it could veer towards the SE

watching the channel as well

Edited January 22, 2013 by john pike

[Nigerian Prince]

Forget about Gatwick at -6, its shannon airport at -2,thats most amazing reading, near to the coast facing the atlantic.

(location Battersea,London) Gender Male.

[yamkin]

Forget about Gatwick at -6, its shannon airport at -2,thats most amazing reading, near to the coast facing the atlantic.

(location Battersea,London) Gender Male.

Yes, the temp is quite amazing

[Tom Montalbano]

Ok, results to 2nd half of draw.

If you didnt post a final depth I'm afraid you forfeit the match, if I've missed your post, If you post the original, I'll look at it again.

Winners underlined in bold. F/F = Match forfeited. Half/Time depth in brackets. Depths in cms.

Roll titles and cue music again. This time a snow video for the ladies but I'll turn the volume off as it spoils the scenery!

14.2 (9.5) Bushey (H) (SVALIJI) v. Herne Bay (K) (HERNEBAYLOOBY) (N.M.R) 8

10.2 (2) Forest Hill (L) (MACC SE) v. Medway Towns (K) (SNOWMONKEY) (0.0001) 9

**14 (6) Haywards Heath (Sus) (NIKKIB74) v. Wandsworth (L) (BLIZZARD BELLE) (N.M.R) 14**

F/F (N.M.R) Brighton (Sus) (WEATHIZARD) v. N.W.Kent ? (KENTSPUR) (N.M.R) 12.5

15(N.M.R) Bromley (K) (VERTICAL LIMIT) v. Headington (Ox) (MARK NEAL) (10) 13.5

10 (3) S.E.Coast? (TAMARA ROAD) v. Bromley (K) (BROMLEY PILGRIM) (5) 13

F/F (3) South Norwood (L) (JAYCES) v. Greenhithe (K) (STEVE MURR)(N.M.R) F/F

10 (2) Hailsham (Sus) (JULES71) v.Tonbridge (K) (WARRENB) (N.M.R) F/F

10 (6.3) West/Central London (SNO'PROBLEM) v. Anerley (L) (TOMSE20) (2) 8 Sack the manager, complacency!

5 (0) Canary Wharf (L) (CHART VIEWER) v. Coney Hall (K) (BIGGIN) (5.5) 12

12 (N.M.R) Crowborough (Sus) (JAMES HARRIS) v. Surrey ? (RADIATING DENDRITE) (7) F/F

15.5 (5.2) East Sheen (L) (DICKIE 1965) v. Camberley (Sur) (MESOCYCLONE) (N.M.R) F/F

**8 (2.5) Folkestone (K) (LOTTIEKENT) v.Sutton (Sur) (SOUTHBANK) (N.M.R) 8**

11 (5.5) S.W.London (FLUID DYNAMIC) v. Sawbridgeworth (H) (HAMMER) (2) 10

2.5 (N.M.R) Lee (L) (FROZENCANALS) v. Rochester (K) (BARMY BINT) (0) 8

7 (1.5) Fairlight (Sus) (BLUEBREEZER) v. Littlehampton (Sus) (MJKING) (N.M.R) 5

F/F (N.M.R) Greenwich (K) (COOKIE 27) v. Swanley (K) (SNOWBLUES) (4) 12

10 (0.5) East Farleigh (K) (SNIFFER MARK) v. Rochester (K) (DANIEL SMITH) (N.M.R) F/F

F/F (N.M.R) Orpington (K) (ORPINGTONICEAGE10) v. Bromley Common (K) (KEKE) (N.M.R) F/F

8 (0) Chalk (K) (BJAYKENT) v. Crayford (K) (MIKE STORM) (2) 13

**8 (0) Halling (K) (HALLING WEATHER) v. N.W.Kent (LAUREN) (0) 8**

That completes the results of the 1st round of the London & S.E. Snow Depth Challenge Cup.

**14 (6) Haywards Heath (Sus) (NIKKIB74) v. Wandsworth (L) (BLIZZARD BELLE) (N.M.R) 14**

**8 (2.5) Folkestone (K) (LOTTIEKENT) v.Sutton (Sur) (SOUTHBANK) (N.M.R) 8**

**8 (0) Halling (K) (HALLING WEATHER) v. N.W.Kent (LAUREN) (0) 8**

**All 6 members above progress through to the next round of matches, to replace some matches where both members forfeited**.

Will compile draw later today, for next round of snowfalls , or I could formulate the rest of the competition on a local league basis. Might bring in handicapping based on a members altitude. Would like to know your opinions.

Some very close matches above. Got to give a special mention to my home town, a storming 2nd half performance from all the Bromley teams.

Cheers,

Tom.

Edited January 22, 2013 by TomSE20

[Kent Blizzard]

Tom for the 2nd round or future competitons what about things like....

Lowest Temp Prediction in SE on a certain Night ( Thursday example )

Just thinking coz you never know if get another fair snow event across the SE.

[Kent Blizzard]

BBC shows that SW lot going NNW into Land rather than East towards us tomorrow but they did say uncertainty.

I'll be pleasently suprised if it snows here.

[yamkin]

BBC shows that SW lot going NNW into Land rather than East towards us tomorrow but they did say uncertainty.

I'll be pleasently suprised if it snows here.

Take a look at the ppn pepping up around the NW part of France and heading in a NE direction. No wonder the MetO are uncertain. SE could be in for a surprise

[Tom Montalbano]

Tom for the 2nd round or future competitons what about things like....

Lowest Temp Prediction in SE on a certain Night ( Thursday example )

Just thinking coz you never know if get another fair snow event across the SE.

Hi KB,

Yes I've been very lucky this time, whole region has shared the snow. Will have a think about that. What do you think about continuing with a Cup format or setting up Local Leagues?

How are the models looking tonight, havnt had a chance, collating all those depths has done my brain in!

Is the breakdown to mild still on course for the weekend?

Cheers mate,

Tom

[john pike]

the troughs to our south are a lot further north and east than predicted earlier

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/satpics/latest_uk_ir.html

http://www.sat24.com/nl?ir=True

interesting

a surprise tonight?

[john pike]

hi tom

it looks like a change at the weekend

the way it changes is still in the air at present

probably need to see tomorrow to maybe get a better idea

[Swave Snow]

it could snow in the se in a few hours by the look of things and the temps here now things could prove very interesting indeed very exciting potentially and so close could we be seeing super fast turnaround from the models to extreme cold, looks a little like a 63 battle between the atlantic and the cold air mass.

[Tom Montalbano]

hi tom

it looks like a change at the weekend

the way it changes is still in the air at present

probably need to see tomorrow to maybe get a better idea

Cheers,

jp, day off tom. will be able to concentrate on the models. As you know I work in Croydon, 5 mins or so from the Whitgift cente.

So difficult for us to retain snow in middle of Croydon. Been working there since 1999, most snow I've seen was in Feb.2009 from that Thames streamer, must of been 8 inches or so, even in Church St..

Strange that event because you would expect more snow in Bromley, than Croydon on an ENE flow, which is normally the case with streamer events but not that one. Paul Sherman did a brilliant analysis of that event and snowfalls were much heavier than normal, further WSW, well into Surrey.

Btw, great work with all the charts, its a lot of work isnt it!

Cheers,

Tom.

[john pike]

hi tom

2009 was brill

and was such a quick event but really memorable

think i got nearly a foot from that

your right about the time doing the charts but like you i find it fascinating

keep your eye on that low showing it will make a huge difference to our outlook

if it is modelled wrong

got to go and sleep now but things may surprise later

goodnight all

[snowblues]

Have a stinker of a cold ,been up since 4.30,thought i would see if there been any change,nice surprise! Gfs so far has done alittle back step,block to the east holding firm and the low off the atlantic is held back with some advection heading north, to iceland.Our snow chance goes up a notch a bit,shunted a little east this afternoon and incoming front on sat may have a good spell of snow,depending on how the atlantiic plays out.It could change on the next run of course for the worse but a good trend for the moment

Edited January 22, 2013 by snowblues