South East & East Anglia Regional Weather Discussion 17/09/13 ------------>

[Summer of 76]

No sun here today, temperature stuck at 19.3c, if it was ten degrees lower and November it would be good weather for a bonfire

It is beautiful here in hastings .The sun came out around lunchtime and it is so warm ,in fact i laid out in the garden & im now burnt ! Theres not a cloud in the sky .Apologies if im making anyone jealous !

You are, nearest i have got burnt today was cooking my daughters dinner

[chilly milly]

No sun here either. *sulks*

[abruzzi spur]

It is beautiful here in hastings .The sun came out around lunchtime and it is so warm ,in fact i laid out in the garden & im now burnt ! Theres not a cloud in the sky .Apologies if im making anyone jealous !

What on earth makes you think anyone on here would be jealous?

 

Aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

[Steve C]

Grrr...

 

[HammerJack]

 

I'm working from my windowless office today, so not got a clue if the sun has broken through here yet (although I am leaving work in 40 mins so should find out soon!) 

 

However, if the sun has broken through both south and north, fingers cross it has for me in the middle too

I also have a windowless office now... I just keep getting up, have a walk around to the open plan area, and borrow their windows.

Having a windowless office is awful when snowfall is expected though. I normally spend more time in the open plan area, than I do in my own office :-D

[NO LONGER POSTING]

what.. there is this like glowing thing in the sky.. with wall to wall sunshine... that changed quick..

[Captain Shortwave]

Well it's been a lovely day here, got my washing dried as well.

Everyone on netweather hates me now 

(I can't help it if an area of cloud stretching from London, through Birmingham to Liverpool/Manchester exists can I)

Edited September 23, 2013 by Captain shortwave

[Jan_Bromley]

Sing if you're glad to be grey

Sing if you're happy that way

 

I'm NOT singing!

 

As it's 21.5c back in Reigate I am assuming that the sun is out there....  can anyone confirm?

 

AS

That's a great version of that Tom Robinson song

[Jason T]

To all concerned. The post of mine last night (288). Is as JP Expressed, It was just for fun. Or should i say as soon as we approach the Winter period all manner of Extreme end of the world forecasts begin. Intense read though. Anyone guessed which site its from, Or should i say Forecaster.

 

Edited September 23, 2013 by Jason T

[john pike]

Sun came out here at 4.30

Better than nowt i suppose

[john pike]

To all concerned. The post of mine last night (288). Is as JP Expressed, It was just for fun. Or should i say as soon as we approach the Winter period all manner of Extreme end of the world forecasts begin. Intense read though. Anyone guessed which site its from, Or should i say Forecaster.

 

Hi mate

First name joe i bet :-)

[Captain Shortwave]

To all concerned. The post of mine last night (288). Is as JP Expressed, It was just for fun. Or should i say as soon as we approach the Winter period all manner of Extreme end of the world forecasts begin. Intense read though. Anyone guessed which site its from, Or should i say Forecaster.

 

Hi mate

First name joe i bet :-)

I was thinking a certain James Madden myself

[Methuselah]

Today's max: 23.2C...

[Anvils in the Sky]

Was a fabulously sunny afternoon. Yay! Seems like an age since we had one of those. Just as I was giving up hope for today, around 1pm, chinks of blue suddenly started appearing all over the place. And by 2, not a cloud to be seen. A much, MUCH needed few hours of the old rays shining down on this part of the world. Hopefully we'll all get them tomorrow - and for more of the day!

[Mark Neal.]

Yuck. After yesterdays wall to wall sunshine, today has been cloudy! Temp of 17.8c.  XC shows clear skies to East, West and South, Cloudy with low cloud here! 

[Methuselah]

With a smidgen of luck, the wind will push that cloud a few miles north for tomorrow... 

[Mark Neal.]

With a smidgen of luck, the wind will push that cloud a few miles north for tomorrow... 

We live in hope Pete!  Not often south of the m4 get lucky i suppose  

Edited September 23, 2013 by Mark Neal.

[Summer of 76]

Well no sun all day and towards six I nearly had to get the portable floodlight out to finish spraying the shed at the back .

 

Tell you what a few of those guys on the model thread must be second hand car salesmen as they tried to sell me sunshine last week (Merc) and all I got was wall to wall cloud (clapped out mini), they say they have a better deal come up for winter, where's the number for trading standards

[Captain Shortwave]

Well no sun all day and towards six I nearly had to get the portable floodlight out to finish spraying the shed at the back .

 

Tell you what a few of those guys on the model thread must be second hand car salesmen as they tried to sell me sunshine last week (Merc) and all I got was wall to wall cloud (clapped out mini), they say they have a better deal come up for winter, where's the number for trading standards

I think I nicked your Merc  

[Jason T]

To all concerned. The post of mine last night (288). Is as JP Expressed, It was just for fun. Or should i say as soon as we approach the Winter period all manner of Extreme end of the world forecasts begin. Intense read though. Anyone guessed which site its from, Or should i say Forecaster.

 

Hi mate

First name joe i bet :-)

 

 

Ahhh JP Sorry mate.....No Cigar. Captain S has got it though. However Joe B, Will probably follow suit. That forecast  from Mr madden, Would cause mayhem if it became Public. Mind you it would be some Winter to talk about. 

[Eskimo]

Southwestern France may see temperatures reach the high 30's this Friday, must be a September record, or at least daily record? 

[Mark Neal.]

Clear skies now. 2 hour after dark. Sod's law!

[claret047]

Hello everyone,

 

Returned home from Wells Next Sea a little earlier this evening after a long weekend at the Pinewood Caravan Park. We were extremely lucky with the weather with only Saturday afternoon turning cool, breezy and cloudy. the rest of the time was mostly sunny and warm in sheltered spots. Today started sunny from dawn and it was still sunny when we left at about 14.30, but travelling no more than about a couple of miles inland on the way home we met cloud and so it remained (including travelling through the TOD) until we reached the outskirts of Chelmsford.

 

Back to work tomorrow. No doubt the sunny weather will follow me to London!!

 

Kind Regards

 

Dave

[john pike]

hi all heres the fax charts

 

tomorrow

 

a weak south easterly flow

 

fog again in usual spots

 

temps

 

18-22 degrees again sun is highest

 

gonna say after the fog and mist has cleared i reckon more sun to all but expect sunny intervals not clear skys

 

no rain around anywhere

 

 

tues night

 

dry and humid with fog again

 

 

wednesday

 

a weak southerly flow

 

expect some dense fog early and late moreso southern areas but not exclusively

 

temps

 

20-25  again who gets more sun wins

 

rainfall

 

looks dry but a slim chance of a late shower northern region

 

thursday

 

a south east to easterly flow

 

temps

 

18-22 but cooling down as we go through the day

 

rainfall

 

expect some scattered heavy showers through the day

 

heavier more southern areas

 

may stay dry and cloudy tod area

 

update the rest later when ready

[Jason T]

Hi All here is my Winter Forecast for 2013/14 Enjoy.

 

ADVANCE PREDICTION SEPTEMBER 2013 TO MARCH 2014

I will now attempt to give an advance predicative forecast of the weather from September 

2013 to March 2014, however, it comes with some caveats – not because I am ‘hedging the 

bets,’ as it were, but simply because there are in this period some major weather indicator 

days, that will affect the following weather for at least this whole period.

So, this prediction comes with the condition that it will be issued but with emendations 

following the important weather days as and when they occur (one of the problems of 

working so far ahead).

The important days are: Michaelmass – 29th September – this is the major wind day up to 

December 21st, where the wind blows this day will be the predominant wind direction to 21st

December (St Thomas – Winter Solstice).

The next important day is 11th November – St Martin – where the wind blows this day will 

be THE predominant wind direction to at least Candlemass - 2

nd February – this is a vital 

wind day. In effect this wind day controls the winter.

Winter Equinox on 21st December is the next date – this the shortest day of the year sets 

the wind direction effectively to March 21st

– vernal/spring equinox.

Finally, 2nd February – Candlemass – this sets or confirms the weather through to the 

spring equinox.

There is of course the 21st March – equinox – Quarter Day – sets the predominant wind

through to 24th June- Midsummer – St John – Quarter Day.

Having said all that I hope that the wind on 29th September will be from the SW – this is 

warmish wind, true it carries rain, but better at this stage than an easterly wind – which 

brings cold from the east, though it is a dry wind.

11th November, I think that this will be a SW wind too because I suspect with good cause 

that the coming winter will be harsh and severe.

21st December is the damaging wind and I suspect this will hammer in from the east 

bringing some quite severe and harsh cold weather behind it and the wind on 2nd February 

will also be from the east backing the cold weather up – or magnifying it.

All of which then makes the wind on 21st March of little or no consequence, since all the 

damage will already have been done by the previous winds from the east.

I will come to the reasons why I suspect a severe and harsh winter this year – how harsh? 

Certainly as bad as 1962/3 and maybe even harsher – for the UK north of the M25 for certain 

a hard winter, for us here in the SE, bad enough, later. So a brief outline of the moon weather suggestions for the months;

September: Moons = New 5th = Frequent rain showers.

1st Quarter 12th = Rain.

Full 19th = Frequent rain showers.

Last Quarter 27th = Cold and rain showers.

October: Moons = New 5th = Frost.

1st Quarter 11th = Fair & frosty.

Full 18th = Fair and frosty.

Last quarter 26th = Fair & frosty.

November: Moons = New 3rd = Snow/rain.

1

st Quarter 10th = Rain.

Full 17th = Fair & mild. 

Last Quarter 25th = Fair & frosty.

December: Moons = New 3rd = Frost.

1

st Quarter 9

th = Fair & mild.

Full 17th = Cold rain.

Last Quarter 26th = Snow & rain.

January: Moons = New 1st = Cold & high winds.

1

st Quarter 8th = Snow & stormy.

Full 16th = Rain.

Last Quarter 24th = Rain.

New 30th = Rain/snow.

February: Moons = 1

st Quarter 6th = Fair & frosty.

Full 14th = Fair & frosty.

Last Quarter 22nd = Fair.

March: Moons = New 1st = Cold rain.

1

st Quarter 8th = Snow/rain.

Full 16th = Fair.

Last Quarter 24th = Frost.

A cursory glance at the above will indicate a wet September: A very cold dry October. 

Cold beginning and end of November with milder stuff in the middle, a cold beginning and 

end to December with warmer stuff in the middle. 

So much for the cursory glance and brief outline, now to put some meat on the bones 

month by month and see why there are milder and colder sections in these months.SEPTEMBER 2013

September: Moons = New 5th = Frequent rain showers. 

1st Quarter 12th = Rain.

Full 19th = Frequent rain showers.

Last Quarter 27th = Cold and rain showers.

Met Office Quiet Period 1st to 17th

.

No Buchan notes this month.

Normally a month with fair weather, quiet sunny days and calmness as the harvest 

ends for both grain and fruit, and quiet up to the equinox on the 21st

.

However, this year an indication of change, with, surprisingly a lot of dampness 

across the month, but then 2013 has been a year of surprises, so nothing new here. I think 

the remains of the fruit harvest will be of good quality for all the signs through the year 

indicated this, and a later than average harvest too.

Equinox on the 23rd. Quarter Day on 29th

– Michaelmass – Day of Prediction, the 

wind direction this day will be the predominant wind direction until the next Quarter Day 21st

December, it is therefore hoped that the wind direction this day will be other than from the 

east, for an easterly wind will indicate a very cold autumn indeed; and having said that it will 

make October extremely cold, especially with the frost predictions shown below.

In the second week if a the robin becomes prominent in your garden and starts to 

frequent your back door, it is the first true indicator of a hard winter to come, the robin is 

staking out its territory,Whilst Batman sits in his warm car and being a ground feeding bird, knows where the food will be.

OCTOBER 2013 

October: Moons = New 5th = Frost.

1st Quarter 11th = Fair & frosty.

Full 18th = Fair and frosty.

Last quarter 26

th = Fair & frosty.

Penumbral Lunar Eclipse 18th

Met Office quiet period 16th to 19th

.

Met Office stormy period 24th to 13th November.

No Buchan notes this month.

As can be seen the omens are for a very cold dry month, with not a lot 

of wind, quite possibly find dry days but with intense cold at night – again, the 

wind direction on 29th September is paramount.Middle of the month an established quiet period known as St Luke’s 

little summer, St Luke’s day 18th, around this date four and a bit days of 

dry sun

Sunny warm settled weather daytime, maybe hard frosts at night. 

This settled (coincides with children’s half-term holiday too) period 

ends on 28th

– St Jude’s day which is always a stormy wet day, which 

leads into the stormy period indicated above.

For golfers your last chance of some dry golf before the BST ends and 

the clocks go back.

NOVEMBER 2013

November: Moons = New 3rd = Snow/rain.

1

st Quarter 10th = Rain.

Full 17th = Fair & mild. 

Last Quarter 25th = Fair & frosty.

Hybrid solar eclipse 3rd

.

Met Office stormy period from 24th October to 13th November. a Quiet 

period 15th to 21st, and a stormy period 24th to the 14th December.

A Buchan cold period 6th to 13th

The cold continues from October, however the important day of note 

for this month is 11th November, St Martin’s day – day of Prediction, but more 

importantly the weather on this day will indicate quite accurately the 

predominant weather for the next three months up to Candlemass (2nd

February). This day most years indicates the onset of winter; and where the 

wind blows this day, there it remains until at least 2nd February – so, whilst not 

a ‘wind day’ per se, it is a vitally important day for future weather.

If the wind this day is from the SW there is will remain until 2nd

February, indicating a mild winter (as in 2012/13), however with all the 

indicators showing a harsh winter, if I were a betting man, then an easterly 

wind on this day is an absolute banker, all my dta points to this as the case 

too.

On the up-side however, St Martin ushers in a period of three days and 

a bit of dry warm settles weather known at St Martin’s little summer.

If we are to have a harsh, severe winter, then St Martin’s day is the day 

to note how many oak leaves remain on the trees and how many leaves 

remain on the vines, for leaves on both will indicate a harsh and sever winter, 

so the second true indicator of a harsh winter.DECEMBER 2013

December: Moons = New 3rd = Frost.

1

st Quarter 9th = Fair & mild.

Full 17th = Cold rain/changeable

Last Quarter 26th = Snow & rain.

Equinox 21st and winter Solstice – Quarter day for wind – shortest day 

of the year.

Met Office stormy period 24th November to 14th December and again 

25th to the 31st. Met Office quiet period 15th to 21st

.

Buchan warm period 3rd to 14th

.

The cold continues into the first week, but, as one might well expect 

with a Buchan Warm period too, not so harshly. The two weeks in the middle 

are normally quite mild, the weather will change around Christmas and I 

expect that Boxing Day (St Stephen) 26th will herald the start of what I think 

will be the start of a harsh severe winter for many parts of the UK. All the 

evidence so far (and it is now the end of May as I write this) points to a late 

prolonged autumn easing into a cold harsh severe winter. As the year 

progresses I will give more reasons for this in detail and show how nature, 

when interpreted accurately, in turn, provides all the knowledge that one 

needs for the forthcoming months.

The particular day in this month to note is the 21st, equinox/quarter day, 

where the wind blows this day there it will stay until 21st March – Vernal 

equinox. So, with Easter on the 20th April, it might not be too far stretched to 

say that the hard winter I think that is to arrive around Boxing day, will remain 

until at least 21st March, and, as this year (2013) if the easterly wind remains 

then it will, as it is now (May 2013) cold well into the second week of June.

CONCLUSION

As I said at the start this prediction September to December 2013 will 

be subject to revision and amendment on 29th September, 11th November and 

21st December, due to those three days being important weather and wind 

days; having said that, I do not think that there will be any material changes to 

the above. I will however post all and any such comments as the dates fall 

due.

The January to March section will follow in mid-June.

David King Edenbridge 25th May 2013.

 

To end, I found this on Google, had to do it as a wind up stating it was mine...Its NOT.Did you like the Batman bit...  However i did say they would all start posting out on the www.

 

If you write in PDF Form, Make sure its in READ only when launched.

Edited September 23, 2013 by Jason T