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  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary
  • Weather Preferences: Cold, Snow, Windstorms and Thunderstorms
  • Location: Ireland, probably South Tipperary

Just a very quick example....correlating MEI against 1000mb temperature does not detect any strong relationships in our part of the world.

 

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Similar story for 500hPa heights:

 

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I did a fairly detailed post on this last year, which you might find of use http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/74491-winter-2012-2013-part-2/?p=2373163

Seemed the strength, rather than phase, is what matters most.

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  • Location: Wellington, NZ, about 120m ASL.
  • Location: Wellington, NZ, about 120m ASL.

I did a fairly detailed post on this last year, which you might find of use http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/74491-winter-2012-2013-part-2/?p=2373163

Seemed the strength, rather than phase, is what matters most.

 

That was very interesting, thanks. 

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  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: dry sunny average summers and really cold snowy winters
  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level

for those who maybe don't know what a classic TRIPOLE is heres a chart and note the atlantic

 

W = warm

 

C = cold

 

TRIPOLE =  warm then cold then warm ( warm south of Greenland, cold mid atlantic and warm tropical atlantic)

 

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here is a link to the SST anomalies

 

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/ocean/sst/anomaly/index.html

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Meteorological Center Of Russia model also going for above average temps this winter

 

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Precipitation is shown be near normal for most with north west Scotland and possible the SE seeing below average amounts

 

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  • Location: Ribble Valley
  • Location: Ribble Valley

Meteorological Center Of Russia model also going for above average temps this winter

 

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Precipitation is shown be near normal for most with north west Scotland and possible the SE seeing below average amounts

 

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Another model suggesting strong +height anomalies over Greenland, I'll ignore the temp profiles  for the UK as all long range models struggle with these. On the whole a good update for coldies.

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  • Location: Wellington, NZ, about 120m ASL.
  • Location: Wellington, NZ, about 120m ASL.

for those who maybe don't know what a classic TRIPOLE is heres a chart and note the atlantic

 

W = warm

 

C = cold

 

TRIPOLE =  warm then cold then warm ( warm south of Greenland, cold mid atlantic and warm tropical atlantic)

 

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here is a link to the SST anomalies

 

http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/ocean/sst/anomaly/index.html

 

Here is the pattern just before the cold set in that month:

 

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  • Location: Near Keele, North Staffs
  • Location: Near Keele, North Staffs

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Can't help but take a peek at some CFS charts when i'm bored, 

Christmas Eve Snowmageddon looks alright Posted Image

 

An outrageous chart !

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

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Can't help but take a peek at some CFS charts when i'm bored, 

Christmas Eve Snowmageddon looks alright Posted Image

That would be nasty, I had a look at the 850 temps, it would snow everywhere apart from here most likely Posted Image

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  • Location: Batley, West Yorkshire
  • Weather Preferences: Heat and Snow
  • Location: Batley, West Yorkshire

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Can't help but take a peek at some CFS charts when i'm bored, 

Christmas Eve Snowmageddon looks alright Posted Image

 

You wouldn't be seeing relatives if that came off...

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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire

Yep blocking back with a vengeance on the CFS today (both updates so far have been pretty spectacular)

 

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  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: dry sunny average summers and really cold snowy winters
  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level

Here is the pattern just before the cold set in that month:

 

 

 

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that chart is 2009 the one I was showing was 2010

 

here is the SST anomalies for the closest to todays date as I can find for the past few years 2008 onwards to this year for comparison on how we stand just now

 

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  • Location: Ribble Valley
  • Location: Ribble Valley

You wouldn't be seeing relatives if that came off...

Every cloud has a silver lining I suppose. That would bring a lot of disruption  to the country, with blizzard like conditions in some parts of the SE.

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  • Location: Jarrow 28m asl
  • Location: Jarrow 28m asl

You wouldn't be seeing relatives if that came off...

 

The majority of us live a few streets apart now so whatever the weather is we can walk, even that would be difficult though I imagine hahah 

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  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: dry sunny average summers and really cold snowy winters
  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level

more twitter comments rubbishing American models

 

Joe Bastardi â€@BigJoeBastardi 28m

There is something seriously wrong with modeling when ECWMF GLOBAL models beat the hurricane models at hurricanes. Rehaul needed

 

and

 

Joe Bastardi â€@BigJoeBastardi 23m

Market is so wired into the GFS, that private mets have to comment on its 12z run,which is 1st guess.ECWMF late, meticulously initialized

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  • Location: Armadale, West Lothian
  • Location: Armadale, West Lothian

Met office app saying light snow for my area (West Lothian) on Sunday night!

Met office app saying light snow for my area (West Lothian) on Sunday night!

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  • Location: Ripon , North Yorkshire 41m/135ft ASL
  • Weather Preferences: heat and cold, storms and blizzards...zonal a no no
  • Location: Ripon , North Yorkshire 41m/135ft ASL

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Can't help but take a peek at some CFS charts when i'm bored, 

Christmas Eve Snowmageddon looks alright Posted Image

Great find Andy.... looking a bit nearer in the timeframe CFS wants to rattle a few milk bottles a week on Saturday

 

 

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  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: dry sunny average summers and really cold snowy winters
  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level

Met office app saying light snow for my area (West Lothian) on Sunday night!Met office app saying light snow for my area (West Lothian) on Sunday night!

 

BERGINIS go to top right of page click on your name go to profile and put in your location

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  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: dry sunny average summers and really cold snowy winters
  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level

Met office app saying light snow for my area (West Lothian) on Sunday night!Met office app saying light snow for my area (West Lothian) on Sunday night!

 

also being new don't know how much you have looked around the site heres a link to the Scottish thread as well so you can check in there as well and chat with fellow scots as well as chatting elsewhere

 

http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/78047-scotland-regional-discussion-autumn-2013/page-15#entry2824270

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  • Location: Armadale, West Lothian
  • Location: Armadale, West Lothian

BERGINIS go to top right of page click on your name go to profile and put in your location

Done (I think) I'm on mobile version

also being new don't know how much you have looked around the site heres a link to the Scottish thread as well so you can check in there as well and chat with fellow scots as well as chatting elsewherehttp://forum.netweather.tv/topic/78047-scotland-regional-discussion-autumn-2013/page-15#entry2824270

Cheers
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  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.
  • Weather Preferences: Thunder, snow, heat, sunshine...
  • Location: Beccles, Suffolk.

also being new don't know how much you have looked around the site heres a link to the Scottish thread as well so you can check in there as well and chat with fellow scots as well as chatting elsewhere

 

http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/78047-scotland-regional-discussion-autumn-2013/page-15#entry2824270

It's starting to sound like the Royal Shakespeare?Posted Image 

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  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level
  • Weather Preferences: dry sunny average summers and really cold snowy winters
  • Location: falkirk, scotland, 16.505m, 54.151ft above sea level

Done (I think) I'm on mobile versionCheers

 

yeah that's it done we can all tell your from armadale now so if you ask any questions about your location will be easier for someone to answer correctly

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