South East England/East Anglia Regional Weather Discussion 07/02/14

[Iceni]

MKSnowAngel

 

You posted a warning of ice tonight. Watching Sky News: they say it's because of 'climate change' so in other words this mild wet winter proves warming in their opinion (despite temperatures flatlining or slightly declining for the last 17 years).

 

So we're supposed to believe it's so warm we got rain all winter, but at the same time there's ice forecast for the region, which means it's cold.

 

In the words of Little Britain (my one), "The computer says NO!"

 

They're mad.

Edited February 9, 2014 by Iceni

[Summer of 76]

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[JennyJane1]

Worrying situation here in Staines, the Thames is so high and rising. Water starting to come up through drains. Had the warning phone call advising of possible evacuation.

stay safe it sounds really bad out there

[weatherobsuk]

River Thames has now surpassed the 2003 highest recorded level, and still rising

 

[Snowangel-MK]

MKSnowAngel You posted a warning of ice tonight. Watching Sky News: they say it's because of 'climate change' so in other words this mild wet winter proves warming in their opinion (despite temperatures flatlining or slightly declining for the last 17 years). So we're supposed to believe it's so warm we got rain all winter, but at the same time there's ice forecast for the region, which means it's cold. In the words of Little Britain (my one), "The computer says NO!" They're mad.

It's not global warming but have a read of this and see what you think - makes perfect sense to me .... "So what is gone wrong with our weather – are we in a LIA as some say ? Certainly were are going from extreme to extreme. Only one theory makes since, and its certainly not global warming, as there has been no warning for 17 years now, in fact it has cooled a little. So is it so called ‘man-made climate change’ ? – I’d doubt it. The only thing that seems to have reasonable answers is solar activity. It’s the Sun !The severe cold winters have coincided with a solar minimum. Now cycle 24 has reached a low maximum not seen in many decades, and with solar activity set to decrease from here again – it looks like the extremes are set to continue. Severe Winters will hit again quiet soon and the extremes in all areas look set to continue as lower than normal solar output is forecast to continue." http://realityweather.eu/entered-little-ice-age/

[Summer of 76]

I was just having a closer look at the flood map which Mk posted on their web site and one thing which stands out around Windsor is the number of reservoirs which are in close proximity to the river.  I suppose they are topped up by the river however the problems will begin if the treatment works get flooded or the power goes down due to sub stations being effected. Whilst the Somerset levels have their problems the populated areas of London will pose a even more worry for all the agencies involved with this situation.

[Iceni]

It's not global warming but have a read of this and see what you think - makes perfect sense to me ...."So what is gone wrong with our weather – are we in a LIA as some say ? Certainly were are going from extreme to extreme. Only one theory makes since, and its certainly not global warming, as there has been no warning for 17 years now, in fact it has cooled a little. So is it so called ‘man-made climate change’ ? – I’d doubt it. The only thing that seems to have reasonable answers is solar activity. It’s the Sun !The severe cold winters have coincided with a solar minimum. Now cycle 24 has reached a low maximum not seen in many decades, and with solar activity set to decrease from here again – it looks like the extremes are set to continue. Severe Winters will hit again quiet soon and the extremes in all areas look set to continue as lower than normal solar output is forecast to continue."http://realityweather.eu/entered-little-ice-age/

 

Agree. Look up Dr. Henrik Svensmark - there's a series of 6 brilliant videos called 'the Cloud Mystery' on YouTube (it starts in Danish but the rest is English so don't get put off).

 

He's been right all along... but has been viciously attacked for his views by everyone - even the head of the MetO who stood up in one of his lectures and told him he shouldn't be 'allowed' to conduct his experiment at CERN (it's on film). I'd heard about him and expected to see some 'elderly mad professor' type from his press write-ups, but he's youngish and looks a thoroughly sensible, decent and intelligent scientist.

Edited February 9, 2014 by Iceni

[East_England_Stormchaser91]

MKSnowAngel

 

You posted a warning of ice tonight. Watching Sky News: they say it's because of 'climate change' so in other words this mild wet winter proves warming in their opinion (despite temperatures flatlining or slightly declining for the last 17 years).

 

So we're supposed to believe it's so warm we got rain all winter, but at the same time there's ice forecast for the region, which means it's cold.

 

In the words of Little Britain (my one), "The computer says NO!"

 

They're mad.

They really are stupid, so their theory explains the record cold seen across North America! Useless they are.

 

Gavin Partridge was closest to spot on for this winter, he predicted that ridge formation in the pacific to plunge America into a much colder than average winter, then predicting us a milder than average winter. Got to say it, he's hit the bullseye.

Edited February 9, 2014 by East_England_Stormchaser91

[Keraunic]

Relatively calm out there now with just a strong breeze. Seems very weird being so quiet and calm after the chaos. No rain either although my rain alarm says some on the way.

When are we due for the next lot?

Hope you've all had a nice week-end.

[fluid dynamic]

They really are stupid, so their theory explains the record cold seen across North America! Useless they are. Gavin Partridge was closest to spot on for this winter, he predicted that ridge formation in the pacific to plunge America into a much colder than average winter, then predicting us a milder than average winter. Got to say it, he's hit the bullseye.

Have to agree. Gav is a great forecaster

[steveinsussex]

MKSnowAngel

 

You posted a warning of ice tonight. Watching Sky News: they say it's because of 'climate change' so in other words this mild wet winter proves warming in their opinion (despite temperatures flatlining or slightly declining for the last 17 years).

 

So we're supposed to believe it's so warm we got rain all winter, but at the same time there's ice forecast for the region, which means it's cold.

 

In the words of Little Britain (my one), "The computer says NO!"

 

They're mad.

 

 

There is a definite climate change, hundreds of years ago there used to be constant harsh winters and the Thames would freeze over, now the bleedin polar caps are melting!

 

Just cause they say there is a climate change doesnt mean that all of a sudden there is not going to be no ice or snow whatsoever, thats just silly of you to suggest that.

[Callie]

I am just hoping that Tuesday is not too windy as I am flying away on holiday from Gatwick... 

[Keraunic]

Just been watching the weather and apparently, there is more rain and gales to come later in the week. Poor souls in the flooded areas. How dreadful.

Edited February 9, 2014 by Keraunophile

[Sussex Jules]

I am just hoping that Tuesday is not too windy as I am flying away on holiday from Gatwick...

Just stand at the top of Beachy Head with a tarpaulin and save yourself the journey to Gatwick! Have a great time.

[Callie]

Just stand at the top of Beachy Head with a tarpaulin and save yourself the journey to Gatwick!Have a great time.

 

Thanks Jules, I know Lanzarote is windy but at least it may be warmer and not so wet as here...

[Steve C]

I am just hoping that Tuesday is not too windy as I am flying away on holiday from Gatwick... 

 

Well I hope you enjoy your holiday! Hideous looking charts from the GFS/ECM /UKMO 12 o'clock today model runs, on Wednesday or Thursday, but hopefully all a distant memory for you, by the time you're there.

Edited February 9, 2014 by Steve C

[john pike]

tonight

 

when the wind eases a frost looks likely

 

mist and fog likely to the north and east of the region

 

however rain incoming from the south west

 

in the morning around rush hour will effect the south moving north east during the day

 

a brief chance of some wintry bits when the precip arrives but wont last and turns to rain very quick

 

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tomorrow

 

 

a weak south west flow veering north west later

 

rainfall

 

 

 

rain and some heavy  should clear many by mid pm

 

far E a shade later

 

temps

 

 

 

hoverin around 6-8

 

but will be chilly

 

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tomorrow nite

 

 

a weak NW flow veers SW overnigh

 

rain

 

looks dry

 

yemps

 

 

frost likely

 

will clear when wind picks up from SW all dependant on when

 

more soon

 

keyboard issues

Edited February 9, 2014 by john pike

[shotski]

There is a definite climate change, hundreds of years ago there used to be constant harsh winters and the Thames would freeze over, now the bleedin polar caps are melting!

 

Just cause they say there is a climate change doesnt mean that all of a sudden there is not going to be no ice or snow whatsoever, thats just silly of you to suggest that.

 

True, Hundreds of years ago the Thames did (some times) freeze over and there was a period of very cold winters.

The period became known as the little ice age.

 

However there was also a Medieval warm period where temperatures were similar or even above todays values

and the olive line was 1000 miles or so further north.

 

I wonder what they put that down to at the time ?

 

And if its sea ice your after I suggest you head down to the antarctic currently at record levels.

 

 

 

Shotski

Edited February 9, 2014 by shotski

[Iceni]

There is a definite climate change, hundreds of years ago there used to be constant harsh winters and the Thames would freeze over, now the bleedin polar caps are melting!

 

Just cause they say there is a climate change doesnt mean that all of a sudden there is not going to be no ice or snow whatsoever, thats just silly of you to suggest that.

 

 

Rubbish.

[Snowangel-MK]

Thanks Jules, I know Lanzarote is windy but at least it may be warmer and not so wet as here...

Mr P and I were there a couple of weeks ago - it was high teens low 20s :-) Have you been before - where are you staying ?

[Steve C]

Mr P and I were there a couple of weeks ago - it was high teens low 20s :-)Have you been before - where are you staying ?

And I'll be there in a fortnight too, hopefully. :unsure:

[kate1]

JP - are 'yemps' Yamkin temps?

Seriously - I really appreciate the fact that you have abandoned your own plans to help all of us in this forum - personally I rely on you to interpret the charts, as do many others I know, and in present circumstances your efforts are specially heroic!

[john pike]

7uesday

 

 

winds breezy SW veering back cold NW

 

rain am

 

 

arrives around rush hour

 

around lunch

 

 

keep eyes here heavy rain

 

will clear around mid pm

 

yemps

 

 

6-8 when rain here

 

will drop quick as night falls

 

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7uesday nigh7

 

a cold NW - SW wind breezy no7 s7rong

 

rain

 

 

looks dry

 

however we have a 7rough on fax

 

which may move in overnight7

 

7emps

 

 

if 7rouh moves across overnite wi7 528 dam air over us

 

we may see some win7ry bi7s

 

will be cold and fros7 likely

 

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wednesday

 

a chilly wes7 flow

 

528 dam air over us

 

precip hard call now

 

low 7o our W may effec7 us la7e pm

 

7emps

 

snow-hail-rain all poss here

 

need 7omorrows 7o confirm

 

sorry abou7 spellin

 

a couple of le77ers s7ickin

 

more la7er

[john pike]

hi k

 

 

had a keyboard issue

 

yamk yemps would be much colder

[I remember Atlantic 252]

Good post as always John, but you like your 7's