Spring moans, ramps, chat and banter

[mushymanrob]

2 hours ago, cheshire snow said:

Just imagine if the models did a u turn

and we get snow and ice in March.

there again I suppose some would

still moan and whinge 

C.S

too bloody right i would... i lost 20% of my income in 2013...

[knocker]

11 minutes ago, mushymanrob said:

too bloody right i would... i lost 20% of my income in 2013...

Quite. who on earth wants snow in spring with nature just waking? Not that it's been asleep that long this year

[Carl46Wrexham]

3 minutes ago, knocker said:

Quite. who on earth wants snow in spring with nature just waking? Not that it's been asleep that long this year

Not sure it has slept at all. The sight of flies and wasps in December and January spoke volumes to me about this so called winter.

[Severe Siberian icy blast]

35 minutes ago, knocker said:

Quite. who on earth wants snow in spring with nature just waking? Not that it's been asleep that long this year

But who on earth wants wild life in January ? Knowing they will be killed immediately once cold returns ? March is a month of transition . It can be bitter aka 2013 or very warm aka 2012 . 

We had 22c in 2012 but -10 in 2013 so it's anything and everything on the table .

me personally can't stand the last 3 winters , it's so unatural and and makes me really wanna move out of this crap climate 

[knocker]

Usual mish mash on the GFS run but you can play spot the warm sector

[TropicThunder]

Ridiculously mild, almost warm out there today, feeling more like Spring but without the sunshine.

I've definitely given up on Winter arriving down here and just want it over now, looking forward to the Summer and storm season although that usually disappoints too. 

Such a crappy climate we have in this country, what I would give to live in the States.

[cheeky_monkey]

6 minutes ago, TropicThunder said:

Ridiculously mild, almost warm out there today, feeling more like Spring but without the sunshine.

I've definitely given up on Winter arriving down here and just want it over now, looking forward to the Summer and storm season although that usually disappoints too. 

Such a crappy climate we have in this country, what I would give to live in the States.

Much prefer the Canadian climate with the exception of spring..as the Canadians say it sucks!

[snowblizzard]

The past couple of winters have been destroyed by Azores High influence.

This winter It's been the damn Euro heights that have prevented any real Northerly or Easterly chances!

I remember the days when Atlantic depressions took a more Southerly track across France into Europe which allowed much colder air to flood down from the North.

Why doesn't that ever happen these days?

Edited February 1, 2016 by snowblizzard

[snowblizzard]

19 minutes ago, TropicThunder said:

Ridiculously mild, almost warm out there today, feeling more like Spring but without the sunshine.

I've definitely given up on Winter arriving down here and just want it over now, looking forward to the Summer and storm season although that usually disappoints too. 

Such a crappy climate we have in this country, what I would give to live in the States.

You might get colder winters with much higher chance of snow events.

But, you'll also have a much high chance of being shot by some crackpot! 

[daz_4]

1 minute ago, snowblizzard said:

I remember the days when Atlantic depressions took a more Southerly track across France into Europe which allowed much colder air to flood down from the North.

Yeah, one of the reasons why we have so horrible drought here. Cold front from west that brought huge storms in summer dissapeared in the last three years. The same goes for NW flow with snow showers in winter. Never happens anymore.

This map says it all. How can we expect at least average winter in the world so warm? I went for a run today and trees are ready to bloom. Ridiculous.

 

[knocker]

Today's temp anomaly

 

[markyo]

To be honest i think this winter is now finished,nothing apart from a few straw clutching charts are showing up. Just hope this summer doesn't continue in the same vein. Summer heat i dislike strongly but i know many people love it (no idea why!),but if this awful weather continues i fear for both the wildlife and economic situation many people may find themselves in ie tourist and agriculture sector. anybody who doesn't agree our weather has changed in my in my opinion is a totally deluded.

[I remember Atlantic 252]

yes agree with all that marky

[mushymanrob]

17 minutes ago, markyo said:

 anybody who doesn't agree our weather has changed in my in my opinion is a totally deluded.

you werent around in the early 70's then when we had a run of 6 winters that produced just about no snow. i recall a feature on 'nationwide' (topical, daily affairs programme) highlighting the mild/early spring. that was in 74 i think.

the climate has always fluctuated, its not uncommon to have a run of mild winters .

[law of averages]

There was a run of least 25/30yrs… were there was ALOT OF MILD WINTERS, compared to SNOW n COLD!! mid 80s onwards

[Weather-history]

Well this winter has produced one delight, a chance to see nacreous clouds. Took a time-lapse of this afternoon

 

Infact , I am pretty sure you can se then during the day in my time-lapse

 

 

[Evening thunder]

4 minutes ago, mushymanrob said:

you werent around in the early 70's then when we had a run of 6 winters that produced just about no snow. i recall a feature on 'nationwide' (topical, daily affairs programme) highlighting the mild/early spring. that was in 74 i think.

the climate has always fluctuated, its not uncommon to have a run of mild winters .

Yeah, it could just be 3 mild winters (last year was actually not far from average temperature wise), and a colder one in 2016/17

People seem too quick to think our climate has changed.. before 08/09/10 etc it was the 'm0dern winter' etc and some saying would we see a CET month below 3C.. then people were asking if our winters were becoming colder and snowier due to solar activity or some other change, and now it's changed back to some saying mild and wet is the 'winter of the future'.

Of course there may have been some sort of shift in synoptics due to a surprisingly controversial scientific consensus.

If it was a random dataset, mild and cold winters would tend to cluster at times, because random is very different to an alternating pattern.

[cornish snow]

To many people giving up on winter today.

It's the 1st of Feb for ----'s sake,not March18th

See even 1 of the big hitter's on the mod thread,ready to through in the towel if the Ecm12's is poor. Really,brave call if you ask me.

For all i know,3 weeks from now,i might be sledging down my favourite hill. Probalbly won't but hey,you never know.

If there's 1 thing above all else iv'e learned on here,it's that things can change quickly. Today's horror show can be tomorrow's Nivarna.

 

Personally,i think something's coming,dont know why,cant post any charts to back this up,just a feeling iv'e got.

Saying something when probably,the most southely member of this forum,still has hope.

[markyo]

12 minutes ago, mushymanrob said:

you werent around in the early 70's then when we had a run of 6 winters that produced just about no snow. i recall a feature on 'nationwide' (topical, daily affairs programme) highlighting the mild/early spring. that was in 74 i think.

the climate has always fluctuated, its not uncommon to have a run of mild winters .

Sorry disagree,i was around in the early 70's.(loved nationwide!) Agree that we had a run of mild weather,but surely somebody of your obvious understanding of the weather can't fail to see the bigger picture. The resent usa weather over the last few years point in case coupled with the massive increase and frequency of extreme weather events must surely point to a shift in our climatic situation. This is not a fluctuation by any means. Sorry to disagree but until people realise this then i feel we have a problem.

[I remember Atlantic 252]

10 minutes ago, cornish snow said:

To many people giving up on winter today.

It's the 1st of Feb for ----'s sake,not March18th

See even 1 of the big hitter's on the mod thread,ready to through in the towel if the Ecm12's is poor. Really,brave call if you ask me.

For all i know,3 weeks from now,i might be sledging down my favourite hill. Probalbly won't but hey,you never know.

If there's 1 thing above all else iv'e learned on here,it's that things can change quickly. Today's horror show can be tomorrow's Nivarna.

 

Personally,i think something's coming,dont know why,cant post any charts to back this up,just a feeling iv'e got.

Saying something when probably,the most southely member of this forum,still has hope.

posting charts changed I think, now its copy image address, not copy image

[Weather-history]

Photo I took this evening

[pip22]

I also not giving up this Winter. Maybe there won't be any snow but I still desperate for it I won't give up until I see a nation wide snow event dumps 10cms+ in places. Even probably in April  or May maybe.

 

 

[cornish snow]

19 minutes ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:

posting charts changed I think, now its copy image address, not copy image

Right. Well,thanks for that.

[knocker]

That GEFS is such a tease

 

[sundog]

50 minutes ago, mushymanrob said:

you werent around in the early 70's then when we had a run of 6 winters that produced just about no snow. i recall a feature on 'nationwide' (topical, daily affairs programme) highlighting the mild/early spring. that was in 74 i think.

the climate has always fluctuated, its not uncommon to have a run of mild winters .

yes but since the late 80s most of our winters have been mild and since then each decade has got more snowless then the one before.