Scottish weather discussion - Spring 2023/24

[Ross B]

I'm finding this more interesting than the ice. I was just thinking when @johncammentioned the hailstorm he had earlier that we barely get them anymore... then this just happened... And now it's sleet. 

Edited January 22 by Ross B

[Scottish-Irish Skier]

Next one incoming. 

EDIT. Jeezo.

Edited January 22 by Scottish-Irish Skier

[Snowlover2]

8 minutes ago, Scottish-Irish Skier said:

Next one incoming. 

EDIT. Jeezo.

Haha funny but not funny. Imagine phoning the boss this morning to say you wouldn’t be in and why

[Spindrift2017]

Utter deluge of hail when driving through Hamilton 15/20 minutes ago - great sheets of it driven in on the wind with the temperature dropping sharply to 2.5C (according to car dashboard display).

A few small trees and large branches down and a collapsed security fence in evidence but saw no damage more severe than that.

[Ross90]

Lots of fences down and Quite a few branches lying about, wouldn't like to be parked under a tree in that. It seems to have been just the right speed to cause a lot of minor damage but not much serious damage to roofs etc.

[Cheggers]

What an absolute beast of day. Torrential downpours on a very gusty wind, and the wind chill is horrible.

[snowidea]

We survived with nothing worse than tipped over bins (despite them being tucked away beside the house). Spotted lots of branches and the odd tree down out on the dog walk. Still quite windy but obviously not as bad as last night. 

[Cheggers]

Just now, snowidea said:

We survived with nothing worse than tipped over bins (despite them being tucked away beside the house). Spotted lots of branches and the odd tree down out on the dog walk. Still quite windy but obviously not as bad as last night. 

Ditto, but the drive up the M9 from Falkirk to Stirling was interesting, lots of debris on the hard shoulder, and some tress teetering on the edge on going over near to M9 junction for Stirling services.

Facebook has some good video of the sub station hit last night, that lit up the sky blue and orange.

[snowidea]

17 minutes ago, Cheggers said:

Ditto, but the drive up the M9 from Falkirk to Stirling was interesting, lots of debris on the hard shoulder, and some tress teetering on the edge on going over near to M9 junction for Stirling services.

Facebook has some good video of the sub station hit last night, that lit up the sky blue and orange.

I saw a big flash and thought it might have been weird lightening. It was only looking on Facebook this morning that I realised it was the sub station. 

[jellybaby1969]

Some very lively showers whistling thru here.... squally hail with thunder / lightning. Deffo some interesting weather about

[Norrance]

6 hours ago, Scottish-Irish Skier said:

Snaw back oan at the ski centres.

They didn't lose that much cover with the blowtorch. 

General pattern is trending to caulder too.

 

The repeated freeze thaw this week will probably lead to a better and longer lasting base at least higher up.

[Halfamilefromnowhere]

Ghastly day here, storm last night was nowhere near as bad as we were expecting but been to Invergordon today as hound is poorly and quite a lot of damage around there.  Driving heavy squalls today with sleet , hail and wet snow still howling winds too ug. No t sure about milder spell briefly 7.2 last night but dropping all day from about 4.3C at 9am. 

[Hairy Celt]

27 minutes ago, Halfamilefromnowhere said:

Ghastly day here, storm last night was nowhere near as bad as we were expecting but been to Invergordon today as hound is poorly and quite a lot of damage around there.  Driving heavy squalls today with sleet , hail and wet snow still howling winds too ug. No t sure about milder spell briefly 7.2 last night but dropping all day from about 4.3C at 9am. 

A friend travelled north today and reported rivers running really high - the Helmsdale and Halladale he mentioned...

[Ravelin]

5 hours ago, Snowandrocks said:

No damage to report here but did see that someone had 2 touring caravans blow away overnight on the Suie Rd so it was as lively as it sounded at 3am. 

Still pretty blowy out there now but at least the sun's out. 

Saw that ourselves on Facebook this morning and the wife texted the guy who either owns them, or at least who's land they are on. He owns the small paddock behind our house too. No idea why he had them there, but they've been there a while and never seemed to move. Was surprised they went last night as the wind was from the south and one ended up on road, which is south of the caravans. 

Apart from that I was surprised at how little evidence of storm damage I saw on the commute to Westhill this morning. Surprised at how few Aberdeenshire schools were affected too, about 5 or 6 closed as without power, not a lot with school transport affected either. 

Edited January 22 by Ravelin

[Kirkcaldy Weather]

On 21/01/2024 at 07:34, thebigyin said:

Great Post by @Kirkcaldy Weather as usual in the mod thread provides a nice summary of situation as well as look ahead...stormy, and future winter potential. On the latter, to me the models for early Feb now look like a cold spell could start to appear and a number ensembles across models have notable support. But maybe not...

it doesn't look like much change today sadly to me. Force 11 or 12 in places. Expect some upgrades to warnings today. Large parts of central england only under yellow which seems odd, and areas such as forth Clyde maybe red? Hopefully no stingjet to the tail as it leaves, which in my experience for here can lead to nastiness here. Stay safe everyone  

 

Cheers for those nice words @thebigyin much appreciated

Big Congrats to @Northern Strath will the baby have middle names including Isha / Jacelyn

19 hours ago, Polar Gael said:

This is concerning. Current disruptive stuff is looking sustained for days. Definitely preferred the cauld spell - any sign yet of a return  to cauld in Feburary @Kirkcaldy Weather? 

Not much to add onto my post in the mod thread really. 

My stats from Jan 6th 

January 6th 

Max Temperature 7.6C 

Max Dewpoint 6.9C 

Min Temperature 0.1C

Min Dewpoint 0.0C

January 7th

Max Temperature 5.7C

Max Dewpoint 5.6C

Min Temperature -0.7C

Min Dewpoint -1.1C

January 8th 

Max Temperature 4.9C

Max Dewpoint 4.6C

Min Temperature -0.9C

Min Dewpoint  -1.3C

January 9th

Max Temperature 4.7C

Max Dewpoint  2.2C

Min Temperature 2.4C

Min Dewpoint -0.8C

January 10th

Max Temperature 5.4C

Max Dewpoint 4.6C

Min Temperature  2.5C

Min Dewpoint  1.0C

January 11th

Max Temperature 6.3C

Max Dewpoint 4.5C

Min Temperature  2.9C

Min Dewpoint  1.5C

January 12th

Max Temperature 4.1C

Max Dewpoint  3.7C

Min Temperature  0.2C

Min Dewpoint -0.5C

January 13th

Max Temperature 10.1C 

Max Dewpoint 6.7C

Min Temperature 3.1C

Min Dewpoint  1.3C

January 14th 

Max Temperature  5.6C

Max Dewpoint  1.8C

Min Temperature  -0.7C

Min Dewpoint  -3.9C

January 15th Start Of Significant Cold Anomalies 

Max Temperature 3.4C

Max Dewpoint  -2.2C

Min Temperature  -2.6C

Min Dewpoint  -5.5C 

Averages

Temperature -0.1C

Dewpoint  -4.6C

January 16th

Max Temperature 3.3C

Max Dewpoint  1.7C

Min Temperature  -2.9C

Min Dewpoint  -4.2C

Averages

Temperature  0.0C

Dewpoint  -1.7C

January 17th

Max Temperature  3.1C

Max Dewpoint  -1.9C

Min Temperature -4.1C

Min Dewpoint  -6.1C

Averages

Temperature  -1.7C

Dewpoint  -4.4C

January 18th

Max Temperature  4.4C

Max Dewpoint  -2.1C

Min Temperature  -4.1C

Min Dewpoint  -6.4C 

Averages

Temperature  -0.6C

Dewpoint  -3.7C

January 19th

Max Temperature  5.7C

Max Dewpoint  2.9C

Min Temperature  -1.2C

Min Dewpoint  -2.9C

Noteworthy Pressure readings 

January 9th

Max 1040.20hpa

Min 1038.30hpa

January 11th

Max 1042.91hpa wow

Min 1038.81hpa

January 12th

Max 1041.59hpa 

Min 1025.60hpa 

Pressure fall of 15.99hpa in 24hours

I've put together an in depth look at how severe and extreme the past few weeks have been in Canada, America and Europe

5 minutes ago, Kirkcaldy Weather said:

Wanted to do a longer post and look into just how severe and extreme the past few weeks have been. 

A lot of the years that the past few weeks of cold anomalies are comparable with are among the top analogues from my winter outlook 

Starting with the UK and European countries such as France. The peak of cold conditions appear to have been during January 18th > 19th, I took the following screenshot during early hours of the 19th as a bit of a reference, credit coolwx

How coolwx works is by displaying the following values

Many of the values were around 50 or so years in Magnitude though there could very well have been some which surpassed this.

 

 

 

 

 

CANADA AND USA

There are numerous states in which the January 2024 records are comparable with some of the coldest winter weather events in recorded history like 1947 and 1962/1963 and other extreme events such as February 2021 and February/ March 2018 and December 2022.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One of the most noteable records here as it breaks the prior record by quite a large amount 2.9C and thats a weekly period too

 

These too

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Snoozi]

26 minutes ago, Ravelin said:

Saw that ourselves on Facebook this morning and the wife texted the guy who either owns them, or at least who's land they are on. He owns the small paddock behind our house too. No idea why he had them there, but they've been there a while and never seemed to move. Was surprised they went last night as the wind was from the south and one ended up on road, which is south of the caravans. 

Apart from that I was surprised at how little evidence of storm damage I saw on the commute to Westhill this morning. Surprised at how few Aberdeenshire schools were affected too, about 5 or 6 closed as without power, not a lot with school transport affected either. 

It's because "touch wood" we are on the Lei or Lee side this time unlike Arwen or the new year wind. I mean it was still blawing a hoolie enough to wake me up at 2.45am (I hate wind!) BUT not enough to put the power out (though it did flicker lots!) or upset the bins (all other furniture long since pinned down) and most likely was enough to be blowing the trees into their roots as opposed to against them, which is what brings them down .. lets hope Jocelyn is the same, however everyone please stay safe and do not go out unless you have to x

Edited January 22 by Snoozi

[Scottish-Irish Skier]

1 hour ago, Norrance said:

The repeated freeze thaw this week will probably lead to a better and longer lasting base at least higher up.

Totally.

After Friday's hardpack / ice adventures at Glenshee on a set of (now retired from alpine duty) all mountain skis rattling away, I just ordered some second hand fully on-piste slalom skis off ebay for a bargain price. Shorter and sharp as f*k Scottish rock hoppers they will be. 

So that's me better armed with my quiver. Either cut into the ice, or ride over the slush bumps as per standard Scottish conditions. Rare as hell lovely crisp corduroy and either set will do. 

[101_North]

Against my better judgement I went for an evening cycle up to the reservoirs. Plenty of large trees down and lots of branches. Trails were like rivers in most parts. Tried to avoid the woods as much as possible just in case. Actually a really enjoyable ride despite the conditions.

Edited January 22 by 101_North

[Stormeh]

A couple of flashes of lightning and a few rumbles of thunder from the last shower

[Ross B]

7 minutes ago, Stormeh said:

A couple of flashes of lightning and a few rumbles of thunder from the last shower

Nice I didn't see or hear anything but looks like the M77 at Darnley has had a pretty bad hailstorm. Road is closed with multiple accidents. 

[Jo Farrow]

Scotrail trains will have stopped again by 7pm on Tuesday and not run early on Wednesday 

[Klippie]

I've been having a play around with this, how accurate I don't know but it looks amazing.

Ventusky - Wind, Rain and Temperature Maps

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[Ross B]

There's a lot less focus on Jocelyn, but there are still some very strong gusts showing on the UKV into the west and then up into the northern Isles. Looks like the worst hits here slightly later at night than last time so it may not be the easiest to sleep tonight...

 

Edited January 23 by Ross B

[Kayemill]

48 minutes ago, Ross B said:

There's a lot less focus on Jocelyn, but there are still some very strong gusts showing on the UKV into the west and then up into the northern Isles. Looks like the worst hits here slightly later at night than last time so it may not be the easiest to sleep tonight...

 

I'll say cheerio to my power again tonight then. Only came back on last night at about 10pm.

[Northernlights]

Wild wet and windy Another dark miserable day. Even this dry area is getting fed up of all this rain Rivers are all running very high.