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Suppose a cool August after a warm June and July is nothing new. It happened several times in the first half of the 20th Century.
http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~taharley/centralengav_temperat.htm
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Some hope being offered by the ECM 12z that we might see high pressure coming more into play disrupting the advance of low pressure. Nothing prolonged but some nicer warm and dry days are being indicated by both the GFS and ECM before the month is out.
the ensemble mean somewhat indicating a north south split emerging to end the month. Warm conditions would return to the southern half of the UK if it were correct.
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Well, this weathers just got beyond the joke now. 'High' of 16c today, endlessly cloudy yet again and pretty high winds. Doesn't even remotely feel like Summer.
I'm going to say it......this is the worst August I can honestly remember. Yes, I've known wetter August's such as 2008 but for a whole picture of bleakness, this August takes the biscuit. Not one redeeming feature. And it's looking to be the coldest since 1993 (a year after I was born) so my assessment of it is obviously close to the truth. I don't mind a month being cloudy, if it's at least partly warm. I don't mind it being cooler, if it's suitably sunny. This month has nothing and is a insult to the Summer season.
Thank god I'm going to California at the end of the month to get away from this complete rubbish. Sunny from dawn to dusk everyday, low winds and temperatures around 26-30c. Bliss.
A week ago I was dubious, in case September came to save the day as it often has. But even that looks out the window now. I am afraid my fellow Summer lovers that our beloved season is over, may get the odd day over 20c but nothing of any note. It's over.
Yes its a bitter pill to swallow but i think you could be correct. I was listening enviously to a guy at work yesterday who swans off to SE Asia just as the clocks go back so he can skip that long drawn out period up until Christmas. Oh how i wish i could do that too.
I do think that people have been lulled into the false belief that Autumn is already here. September is not much cooler than June and although the days are shorter we can still see some pleasant summerlike conditions.
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Signs emerging that BH Monday could be half decent with rain moving into western areas but not reaching the east till late in the day. Sunday looks the best day in the reliable time frame with some warm sunshine but temps still a touch below average. Next week sees unsettled conditions returning but at least temperatures both day and night will be recovering.
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Another nothing sort of day. Cloudy skies, temperatures in the mid teens. Just rubbish.
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There looks to be a steady rise in temperatures over the next 10 days as we finally say goodbye to this northerly. But it will be taken over by a more Atlantic driven set up. But temperatures should recover back to nearer average associated with the change in wind direction.
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Given how this week was built up to be quite nice by a certain cold loving forumer i was hoping for something decent. But imo northerlies are overrated for their sunshine producing capabilities. We have seen very little of it and temperatures have really struggled. This August is fast becoming a nothing sort of month that will be quickly forgotten, much like August 2010 and 2011.
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Very little, if any sunshine today and cool out in the breeze. When i was out in it earlier i thought it felt alright, by that i mean not really chilly. But then i reminded myself that it is still August and there should be a feeling of warmth when im out and about. Heat can still be a feature at this time of year so its a shame that we are experiencing conditions more suitable to late September. Rather disappointing.
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Not selling it im afraid. Wheres my shorts wearing weather, my evenings warm enough to sit out, my above average temperatures But winds should drop light later on in the week so it should feel like summer in early afternoon when the sun is at its highest and temperatures are at their peak.
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Not sure where you were, i'm off Tuesday into the big outdoors for a week 'Weymouth' infact! but like you said
"too chilly to have a bbq" expecting pretty much the same 17c-18c during the day but the evenings getting chilly as soon as the sun is down
But what the hell!.....There's always the pub to stay into to keep warm
I was near Newark on Trent. Was warm enough in the tent but i was hoping to light the bbq and have a few pints sat outside but wasnt nice enough. But as you say theres always a pub close by.
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Yes it has always puzzled me why when we get this type of weather all autumn,winter and into spring that there are members who want the same in summer too.They are obviously not going camping this week on their summer hols.....!!!!!!
I was camping over the weekend. Was too chilly to have a bbq last night and sit outside. Not what i would expect from summer
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Well it may float some peoples boats but the outlook is as dull as dishwater, completely devoid of any interest whatsoever. Thank goodness that the Spring and Summer have been nice up until now or i would be suffering from a lack of warmth and sunshine.
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This weather sucks.
Autumn weather in the 2nd week of August is absolutely shameful.
This week hasnt been too bad actually. Hopefully the final week of the month will show an improvement over next week which doesnt look good at all!
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ECM 12z mean more keen on a cooler push of northerlies early next week before pressure builds later on.
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The chance of something warmer pushing into southern england for a time early next week as shown on the GEFS mean. But it will be accompanied by generally unsettled conditions.
Saturday not looking too bad the further south you go. A chance for getting out and about enjoying some pleasant average summer temperatures.
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I would like to know the last summer that had all 3 months drier and warmer than average. Bet it doesnt happen very often so the chances of August following on from the good summer so far are actually quite small. 2/3 good summer months aint bad i suppose. July is the main summer month for me and it was superb.
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I want to get to the beach before the summer is out. And i mean being able to wear shorts and tshirt and it be warm enough to sit comfortably on the beach and go in the sea. Usually that requires about 21c or more in a light breeze. If high pressure manages to position itself favourably for the last third of the month then that might be possible.
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High pressure occurring in the wrong place can being below average temperatures at this time of year. If it sinks down from the north it will be bringing with it a cool air mass, which will require an input of warmth to raise temperatures. A warm front off the Atlantic over the top of the high would return temperatures to above average, as would a southeasterly dragging warm air into the mix although this tends to take a while longer to raise temperatures.
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Looks like i picked a reasonable time to go camping next weekend with a ridge of high pressure building in.
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Its been a wet start to August in the Lake District - 3 days of incessant rain 1st-3rd quickly put pay to the month ending up a dry one. Tomorrow could easily deliver a couple of inches here - so before we hit mid month we will already be above average. Its been a long while since we have seen a notably dry August.
Unlike period Feb-June, daily totals of an inch or above can easily be achieved in August here from frontal atlantic onslaughts. I never rate August it traditionally marks the start of the Lake District's 'wet season' which doesn't let up until February bar the traditional hiccup in early September.
I was going to go camping there this month, good job i opted for the drier surroundings of the Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire border instead.
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... and it looks like that pattern could last some time , theres no ridging azores high coming to return us to something more typically seasonal.
http:////f1.nwstatic.co.uk/forum/public/style_images/tctc91_simplify/attachicon.gif814day.03b.gif
This looks a bit like the Azores high to me?
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The Atlantic is waking up abruptly, just look at the latest model output.....
Oh ive seen it alright. But its been a dry and warm summer so far with nothing cool whatsoever, yet many posts do not seem to reflect that.
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I get a sense that in the model output thread the prevailing tendency is to desire warm dry sunny weather, but to be pessimistic about it, while those who prefer cool, cloudy and/or wet summer weather tend to be less pessimistic. We get surprisingly few people posting in there from a convection/thunderstorms perspective, as they seem to stay mainly over in the convection/storms area. The result is that the prevailing tone of the posts tends to be downbeat and focusing disproportionately on cool and unsettled weather.
Would tend to agree with you there. Its been mostly talk of the Atlantic reawakening in FI, or talk of an approaching unsettled spell. Pretty much since the start of June.
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I would have to ask one question, are the charts tonight any more likely to be correct on the path of Bertha compared to previous runs? Given it's ETA for western Europe I would say it will be at least another 24 hours if not longer before we have a good idea of where it will go. As usual it seems like the warm/dry week 2 charts are always wrong and the unsettled ones are right. Did some people hibernate for the last couple of weeks?
In what has been a decent summer, the amount of space given over to talk of unsettled and cool in the MOD has been shocking.
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Summer 2014 thread
in Spring Weather Discussion
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August has been quite reasonable here for the past 2 years so it is more than capable of producing something resembling high summer i.e along the lines of 1995,2003. It just seems that the Atlantic has been quite dominant in recent years thus limiting the opportunity for the full potential for August to be realised.