dragan

So how does the radar work?? I looked at about 6:30 thinking this will be the last few flakes, but right now its the heaviest its been! (Bonnyrigg, Midlothian) Apparently, although a breakdown is forecast for Thursday/Friday, as we enter late January/February there is a high chance of more cold snap/spells....

Penicuik is white

Proper snow in penicuik

Flakes of rain, tiny bit of sleet

Chance of a few flakes tonight in Midlothian?? Clouding over a bit just now...however radar looks uninspiring... checks window, and indeed a few are falling!

A few of us (mainly knocker) kept getting slated for suggesting a west to south west dominant period, even although the evidence was there to back it up. No matter how much 'potential' a set up may appear to have for a cold period, on our little island 90% of the time it doesn't happen

Will the models pick up and take into account the cooler Atlantic with the possible upcoming pm blast?? Last week from a pm blast there was a bit of sleet and snow which seemed unusual for mid-late November.

Thanks crew, just wanted a bit clarity. Wasn't being arsy, genuinely just wanted a bit of 'why' the outlook looks good. Your expectations are always spot on

From a very novice point of view, if you mean the disappointment from a coldies perspective then its obvious...basically all the way out in FI there is pm air at best, as Knocks said, even tm air with a gradual warm up is a real possibility. So that is why i asked the question 'am i missing something' as some mention the conditions look good for cold. Im totally objective (i enjoy all weather), but the thing is, in Britain even if all the signs point to a possible cold evolution, 9 times out of 10 (probably more) they never materialise.

A few posts saying the outlook is positive if you like cold. May I ask, what are the signs, and are they not the usual signs that appear every year? Looking at the charts myself, I see a broadly west, to north west regime which would produce average to possibly a tad below (in general) conditions. Are people 'hope casting' or am I missing something? Thanks

Alas knocks, the ski resorts up north will be laughing

Certainly looks like an unsettled cool period coming up, temps about average.

I guess it's high levels of shagwell's entropy. What model has performed best at the 8+ day range recenlty??

Knocker the voice of reason,to me it looks like a fairly chilly high pressure once/if it gets established, how do you read this? Thanks

wowsers. How likely is it to happen, and what sort of things can be expected if it happens?

Is it not possible that the temperature will stay to high for central belt, and none of this will settle? I can't see it being cold enough for it to settle (other than higher spots) apart from a slushy mix on the grass....?

Certainly a cold to cool week coming up, snow for some, sleet or rain for others. It seems a fairly standard cold snap lasting untill next weekend when the ECM UKMO and GFS state a return to milder south westerlies. I still feel February will provide some low temperatures under a high pressure, just my 'gut' feeling however!!

Are the winds due to swing west, to help the showers feed into lothians? I thought this was the case....

A lot of talk of next week, but the way I see it, Central belt could get a decent covering of snow tomorrow. Or am I mistake?? It also looks like it could stay also!??

Average weather upcoming it seems. Looking at gfs/ecm it seems zonal all the way. The southern half of the country shouldnt be to wet however, the wettest weather reserved for the northwest i believe. Some brief cooler shots with more snow for the Scottish mountains, and possibly to lower levels in the north at times.

ok, we see things different, thanks

Yes easy, because the pm shots are not particularly cold, may push temps a bit below average, but not 'cold' in most peoples books

Yes there is the GFS and ECM models that back up my theory. There is more to blocking than just the strat, but like you said, thats for a different thread.

Looking at the models, yet again, i can see westerly winds prevailing, although there is a hint that things could get much milder indeed. No hint of cold unfortunately. I can feel a mild January coming up with perhaps a colder late February/March.

I haven't written off winter tho