NorthWest_Snow

good bc if that sucker hits good days just checked the met where is the warning for this polar low?

to be fair james its only just developed an eye watching the sat..id say certainly keep an eye on it..but it may be pushed out of the way by the lp heading for nw uk it may drag it down towards us if it can maintain itself long enough, its certainly building up though pretty fast once that eye as appeared

you mean this?

mind you saying that, the gfs as happily in the past got things wrong for my area..there was no snow, while it was snowing.its happened a number of times. i do think it struggles with the areas like merseyside and cheshire quite badly actually.

you got me lol..need to look, bit difficult at the moment to do anything.

give it some time to cooldown. midlands have been given blizzard warning, but not until the wee hours like 2/4 am ish..so id have to say give it till that time here..as for the nw lp was watching it from lunchtime..its not really tomorrow that i am interested in, its wednesday's forecast of snow in the north over the entire region incl nw even on low ground. unless the beeb have got caught with their pants down once again. mind you the dp needs to drop but i imagine that will happen pretty soonish..and as the low moves away, you never know, cheshire e and manchester on the tail end of this system as moves out dew point now is 1.1C too borderline. temp ok at 1.3

good, plenty of sleet around, and as temps drop further snow.

or you could take a flight to norway be there in less time anyone watching the other low pressure system to the nw? current precip type radar showing sleet ->

have you seen beyond wednesday? something like the next 7 days stuck under high pressure..

thats coz south liverpool has it's very own microclimate inside a bigger microclimate of liverpool lol

i dunno...i still think we have a better chance down here in the south of the region..the further north the more elevation as it comes through..its still out to the sw of the uk..so lets give it some more time. I meant wednesday for this lmao -> actually beeb now show the snow in north wales and chesire now for tonight they have moved it gradually north throughout the day, though not by much lol

i wouldnt give up either..i still think we are going to be hit cheshire anyways n, s, e. we are now being hit by the main part of the band. precip type radar left and intensity right. tomorrow looks interesting -> latest ir => http://www.sat24.com/Region.aspx?country=e...r&type=loop and a good ir still image from the met of the low -> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/satpics/latest_uk_ir.html

indeed i couldnt agree more with you..all we can do is hope for the best. I am using pro weather system from davis in the back garden and reading stats on my pc from out there. forecast on the thing says for tonight rain -> snow, its forecast is usually spot on. which is more than i can say for nw tonight or the bbc lol

and trust me i am seeing small snizzle in it. my dew point is 1.3C currently actually its quite interesting the variances between places that can be close together..we can have completely different weather to speke or south liverpool where they can and usually do get rain..i wouldnt be that surprised if yours was the same as there.

anyone in south liverpool and east reporting light sleet?

and come night when your temps drop of you should have snow at your elevation depending on where that low is by then ofc..we still have light sleet here :lol: latest IR -> http://www.sat24.com/Region.aspx?country=g...r&type=loop

where do you get the zero snow as temps drop theory for your area? lol

i would reckon it would be snow by then for your location and id expect it to be snow on its se edge over the lower areas of the region such as cheshire n, s and e and manchester. on the coast naturally heavy rain.. we need to know its full track first..its still to the sw and the cloud to the se.

where do you live? because i fully believe this will make more of a significant difference of whether you get any or not

you need to give the system time to form properly and if there will be anything it will prolly be very much later tonight, not this afternoon..i dont think the whole of merseyside will get hit, those closer to cheshire border greater manchester border at elevation stand a good chance. I cant see the wirral with anything but heavy rain..maybe sleety mush, but we will know more tonight when it gets act together :lol: wednesday merseyside stands a bit of a better chance of snow. I think n, s an e cheshire are more at risk, even at low levels..depends how much farther north this gets. actually the stuff in south east wales is currently moderate to heavy rain according to the precip type radar , snow on snowdon has been there for quite a while now and several people have unfortunately lost their lives up there in the last couple of weeks. throwing temps out Temp 2.2C now temp prev 4.3C at 12noon Dew Point 1C prev 2C Humidity: 93% Wind Speed: 16 KMH Wind Direction: ESE (110°) Barometer: 993 mb Windchill -1C things dropping off quite nicely in just a few hours here.

There will be a decent ish chance for higher elevations for those in merseyside away from the coast such as those I listed above and those more to the east..should imagine winter hill will get a hammering tonight, though lower elevations should not be ruled out but i think the heaviest stuff will be to the east over possibly south liverpool, halton east and south and the pennines..i think the bbc should re issue their forecast because i honestly dont believe they have the track of that lp right.

I think merseyside now warrants a warning..more for the higher elevations away from the coast, places like st helens, billinge, wigan, bolton. When I do my projections of where this snow band will end up, i get on its most western flank, cheshire all areas at risk, manchester and greater manchester, places south, the pennines, oldham these places. I think by seeing things a bit more clearly, even in those places I listed i reckon 2 or 3 cm cant be ruled out at ground level. Right now it dark grey, and we have light rain off and on but a few snow flakes mixed in. It's not sleet because its more rain than anything else.

exactly what i have been saying and to bare this out, i am including 2 screenshots the first of which is intensity and the next one is precipt gfs type, it should be noted that the sleet has disappeared off the latest image which i suspect is a blip plus this is the latest IR -> http://www.sat24.com/Region.aspx?country=g...r&type=loop

some of our weather is estuary orientated, but we can get snow when places like merseyside dont, turning to rain for example on an easterly quite readily by the time it reaches merseyside even in the great scheme of things just a few miles can make a huge difference. well now, the sleet is already in southern cheshire and very south wirral might be interesting for wednesday night for some snow i dont mind a dusting..for me its about the best we are going to get..id rather have that then be stuck in autumn all year like we where in summer last year lol

and add this latest sat image -> a little bit clearer http://www.sat24.com/Region.aspx?country=g...r&type=loop