Snowy L

Any Liverpool Airport announcement?

I just know Liverpool will miss out, I'm having flashbacks of January Met Office seem confident of snow, but BBC shows rain all day with a temperature of 5c.

The worst one ever, narrowly beats 2013/14 to the title. In 2013/14 I remember 2 instances of snow falling. This year a few flakes after 12 hours of very cold rain and that was it. Very little dry weather too apart from the last few days.

Want some warmer weather now tbh but I just know we're never seeing that Azores high again until November.

Messed up my grammar. I meant on the 23rd we had plus 5 uppers over England, yet 2 days later precipitation was falling as snow here in a northwesterly wind. Both ECM and GFS show good potential for blocking to our Northeast at day 9. Problem is there is a real lack of cold air over Scandi and Russia at the moment thanks to a huge HP bringing Southerly winds to those regions.

Yep I remember Christmas 2004, Northwesterly just 2 days after plus 5 uppers were over the UK, brought snow accumulations to my area easily. North-westerlies are useless now unless you're inland and on higher ground.

http://www.ann-geophys.net/33/207/2015/angeo-33-207-2015.pdf This might be interesting. In the last 3 winters we've had ENSO neutral and El Nino, we've had W-QBO and E-QBO we've had low snow advance and high snow advance yet all winters have been mild with a positive NAO throughout. Maybe the solar cycle has a larger than expected part to play in winter. This paper shows the North Atlantic is the main area affected by solar activity and during solar cycle peak the Azores High/Icelandic lows are strengthened.

Surely we should want that low to develop and go above that Azores high to continue the slider conveyor belt. All mid-latitude blocking does is provide an escape route for high-latitude blocking to leave the high latitudes.

Funny how GFS has gone from being the villain to hero Blame the last 3 years for that. Failed spectacularly with the infamous December 2012 non-cold spell and has shown cold spells in the last 2 winters only to be corrected by the GFS. Now that I've said that I bet the roles will be reversed for this event in the next few days and ECM will be right, sod's law.

ECM on its own now. GFS has ruined the fun being annoyingly too accurate this winter and the last 2 winters actually, hopefully it's accurate again.

In this case it looks like the Azores High ridging North results in splitting the Atlantic lows. Ideally we would prefer the undercut to extend from the Atlantic into France/Germany uninterrupted. We already have the block to our North East, don't need the Azores getting involved.

Has to be asked did the SSW give us that weak ridge of High pressure? Very reminiscent of the pattern after the January 2013 SSW. Shame the Azores high is so desperate to join in after the first slider.

Could be looking at both La Nina and an E-QBO going into next winter. http://www.theweathernetwork.com/us/news/articles/extreme-weather/will-la-nina-take-el-ninos-place-in-the-pacific-we-examine/62812/http://www.theweathernetwork.com/us/news/articles/extreme-weather/will-la-nina-take-el-ninos-place-in-the-pacific-we-examine/62812/

Travelling outside Liverpool today, literally the second I got past Liverpool I could see snow patches.

It's snowing.... at a rate of 1 flake past the lamppost per 10 seconds

So that's snow to my west, north, east and south now. Mental. Could probably walk to Widness in 40-50 minutes and they have a covering of snow.

Heavy rain now, not even a sign of sleet.

Nothing here, just more heavy drizzle even with that orange ppn over me.

Heavy snizzle/drizzle now. Bring on the next solar minimum. Went through a similar relatively snow-less patch from 2002-2008 too apart from a couple of freak events.

Looks like its snowing here, tiny snowflakes only visible with the security light. Either that or I've deluded myself into thinking drizzle is snow. Temperature falling now, currently 1.8c.

I'm clutching at straws by listening to the Met Office? I don't expect any snow for my area tonight but I'm pretty confident of heavier ppn tonight.

Interesting, most of Liverpool is in this warning, wasn't this morning. Liverpool Airport is 1c cooler than it's been forecast today. Don't know how anyone is saying game over. Fronts always have light scattered ppn ahead of them, the main front isn't even near us and is not expected until after 6pm at the earliest.

Not even raining here now, partly clear.

Think west to east is the problem today. You're quite a bit East from Liverpool Airport which is reporting sleet. You sure there's no flakes in the rain?

Yep. Can't see how high peeps will get 10cm or even me getting 1cm. Way too light at the moment Think west to east is the problem today. You're quite a bit East from Liverpool Airport which is reporting sleet. You sure there's no flakes in the rain?