jonboy

So you agree then that Russia could well believe we are going to suffer significant cooling rather than warming and are taking steps to obtain land that they might use for displaced agriculture or population!!!!!

here is a link to a new paper on planetery influence on solar cycles http://www.landscheidt.info/?q=node/325 Given that WUWT won't review it must be good and the abstract might even be read by those over the road

I do love Judith Curry perhaps one so will the other side http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/22/climatologist-judith-curry-levels-both-barrels-against-alarmist-climate-science/

Is this why Russia is so keen on Ukraine http://iceagenow.info/2014/04/face-cooling-200-250-years-russian-scientists/

No doubt will be considered unscientific irrelevant etc etc but do I care. Link to an interesting article http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/24/svensmarks-cosmic-theory-and-cloud-cover-depictions-in-little-ice-age-art/#more-108081

I can't disagree with most of those statements but just to blame changing climate patterns with no reference to population growth is in my mind a deliberate mislead. As for getting back to my own thread please give me strength if some of you can't stand a valid point being made!!!!!

Climate has always produced fresh water in a given location that varies with the climatic cycles be it PDO, Nino, Nina etc. The one thing man has done is grow in population and as a result needs more water for themselves nad for growing the food we need to survive. If that population grows by 20% in a given location and in the past it was just able to cope during the dry cycles when the next dry cycle appears with that 20% increase in place don't expect the area to cope. This isn't down to climate change its down to population growth. The issue of water supply is far far more complex than being presented here and isn't worthy of this thread.

11.5 for me

Off course led by the southwhich is some 1.6m above the norm whatever that really is. Whilst they over on the manamade thread continue to harp on about artic ice they have been deafening in their silence to explain the growth down under which in a world of AGW doesn't fit the agenda. Now the cold drought etc etc that the states suffered and continue to suffer is all AGW fault and man must change his ways but wheres the science!!!!!

Hi John That Russian alert looks interesting. If its proves correct it will be a feather in their cap and perhaps will lead to better predictions

Hi John a general question would you say that we are seeing an increase in volcanic activity say compared with the last 5 years or so or are we generaly at the same level of activity?

It appears that multiyear ice has again shown an increase this year which maywell bode well for the coming melt Link http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/03/sea-ice-news-volume-5-number-1-multiyear-ice-on-the-rise/#more-106888

I see we have a few April 1 posts this morning!!!

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26746039 Here is an article from the BBC which shows everything wrong with the Climate change debate. Doesn't the reporter understand that there is a vast difference between an underwater volcano outlet pumping highly concentrated CO2 up through the sea than an atnosphere that see's CO2 concentration increase from 0.03 percent to say 0.035 percent and isn't forced through water. How can you come to the conclusions beats me but then clearly I'm not a scientist!!!!!!!

I see that the ski resort of Stowe in Vermont has recieved 5ft of snow this march already not bad for early spring!!! No doubt that north easter will give another 6 to 12 inches over the weekend

I don't think so just less cold than normal

True knocker many good and bad consequencies. If we warm will we be less reliant on russian gas but if we cool we will be more reliant. In many respects I hope we warm!!!!

it is also a problem when people realise they have been lied to as they will reject all those good green objectives that have been put forward as the only way to say the planet

Perhaps you could explain this bit? courtesy of a huge chunk of the polar vortex that the jet stream temporarily dislodged from the Arctic

No I'm not quiet. Lets see what happens and no one even you GW expected the vortex to migrate so far south and set up over the eastern side of the states and canada has it did this winter and there lies the reason why we have not seen the level of ice many expected. This doesn't mean that we are going to have an exceptional melt or even an early start. As for a nino influence again forecasts continue to be varied with more going for neutral conditions at this time. So lets just wait and see before we get further we are doomed posts.

http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/76585-manmade-climate-change-discussion/page-98#entry2938762 Didn't realise this was a contest. Equally shows how reliant some are on scare tactics, etc etc rather than proper science

http://iceagenow.info/2014/02/agw-golden-boy-michael-mann-faces-bankruptcy/ Why does the climate change debate cause such intransigence. All Mann had to do was share his megadata which formed the famed hockey stick.!!!

I see the other side using ridicule already to try and debunk. Don't they ever read before commenting? It would be a change if they could comment on the content that includes the scientific content.

6.0 for me please

Then we have this which highlights what is so wrong with this debate. Especially senior USA politicians http://iceagenow.info/2014/02/mass-destruction-science/