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Yeah, and humidity can still be an issue. We are not out of the wood yet. Even October these days. Halloween 2021 was very warm even

Always love a mattwolves post, so full of optimism despite what we're actually getting

Was really nice out there this morning, 23C, sunny but with a decent breeze. It's clouded over now, and gone very still and you can really feel the humidity starting to kick in, not to an unbearable level yet, but you can see why they think it's going to be stormy by Friday.

No, someone would be here to tell us it happened before in 1904 or something, and that even with that, this was still a fine Summer!

It would kinda crown off this summer to have under 10 degree temps on the Bank Holiday weekend. I'd genuinely laugh at the absurdity of it.

And this summer was meant to be another hot one. I think the overall anomalies we've not had before like the warmer sea temps are throwing out curveballs. I dont think we can take anything for granted this year imo.

Yeah, there are some models showing single figure temps for the Bank Holiday weekend. Probably as much chance as the ones that showed 40 for last weekend, but still!

Because there are too many variables at play still. The models are all over the place and can't decide day to day the extent of things. Some weather forecast apps are picking the best of things, but there are chances those things are downgraded. The chance for a warm, even hot, settled period from Sat-Tuesday looks good, but it has multiple times before this summer only to not pan out that way as we actually get to the day. This summer isn't playing by the rules, and various anomalies are playing havoc.

If we'd had that, most of them would be saying the opposite. Last year was too much in the hot direction as this year has been in the cool (for most people, I've loved it, but that's because I'm ill this this year and didn't fancy being a hot, sweaty and tired mess on top of being in pain). The start of June was the perfect summer for me. Lovely warm days, but a nice cool Northerly breeze keeping everything comfortable and the nights sleepable. What it looks like we're getting for the end of this week in to next, the oppressive muggy continental heat, with showers, is the absolute worst of all worlds. I would take the drier heat periods of 2022 over that!

Looks like the worst of both worlds. Hot but muggy. Sunny but wet. Though given how quickly things are slipping or changing day by day, at this rate we could have a monsoon by Monday!

The expected sunny and hot weather has given way to a hot and humid mess. Because of course it has. Maybe we can have a 'humidity haters' thread and it can bring everyone together?

Ah, so the hot sunny weather we were expecting is now a humid and wet mess. That is definitely worse than a bit of sun.

We've had a good run, but the models thread is not a fun place to look right now. Next weekend looking hotter and hotter with each new run.

But that's the point I'm making, we dont know how the climate and the patterns will respond, it'll all based on scientific assumption. There is a chance our summers get warmer, but muggier and wetter, and not the wall to wall sunshine some seem to be hoping for. I dont think it can be taken as a given a warming world means a 'better' summer. There can still be all sorts of surprises when it comes to monitoring what the weather and the patterns that control it, will do.

Or it could be the other way round, and that this is our summer reality from now on. The Med will burn and we'll sit outside the bubble, only getting drawn in from time to time through short lived plume events while the jet stream settles in to a summer pattern like this. As the climate changes, I dont think we really know how things will react and change with it - we assume based on parallels from the past that dont line up due to the other changes that have happened and have had an impact since the past events we're trying to line up with.

Excellent news!

Long range charts are showing some rising pressure and red over us towards the end of next week. Summer bite back?

Do we have any surface temperature charts for that improvement yet? It'd be good to know what that red/orange might mean and how warm it could get in those set ups. Hopefully warmer, but not excessively hot.

That would be the 'mild improvement and not a heatwave' I was crossing my fingers for then, but thanks for pointing out whatever point you were trying to make.

Next week is looking like a big change incoming according to the charts thread. I, for one, have no time for excessive heat this year. I'm ill and waiting for an op to get fixed. Heat will not make that more bearable. I'm happy to lose the rain, but not looking forward to hot and sticky. Fingers crossed for a mild improvement and not a heatwave!

Nah, that's why I live here. None of that warm stuff. A bit of sunshine will do.

The later it gets through August/September, the harder it will be to get 'nice' heat - as in heat caused by the sunshine and not just humidity and hot air. Personally, if we aren't going to have sunshine, there is no point to muggy heat, so I say give up on Summer now, save the disappointment, and embrace the grey.

Reading the last few pages, people just need to dial it back full stop. Has the summer holidays bought out the children in people? I almost expect someone to suggest their parent could beat up someone else's given the silly back and forth sniping going on!

Yeah, think we're going to have to brace ourselves for at least one hot week incoming, at least in the South. The change is afoot in the long range charts

The video a page back is a really nice go through of the charts and what they all mean and why we've got things like we have. It basically says write off the rest of July if you want heat, but August shows the possibility of a change - though it cant be clearly stated as to what to yet