Calrissian

I for one, welcome our new Earthquake overlords. -- Calrissian: awaiting a smaller follow up shaker , hmm

standby for the aftershocks, I'd think there is a little chance we might get another 4 pointer within an hour or so. Standby for more shaking people, or maybe the cloverfield monster is a'coming ? :o

A nice pretty map for all you people shaking and rolling around like weebles... http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/shake/ous/STOR...im_display.html Looks like somewhere just south of Hull.

oh baby ! http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recent.../quakes_all.php Thats right..looks like it was a pretty mighty 4.7

Well, the BBC note people in 'west midlands' have felt something, but here in the London city it was VERY distinctly a quake. 0.58am, lasting at least 10 seconds, maybe 15 or so. A mighty interesting end to the day. Its like being on the LOST island. Behold, the monster arises !

oh god, I really hope for something even bigger. That was pretty cool, lots of shaking of stuff, lasted a fair bit. At first I thought it was just a 40 ton truck coming off the nearby Brent Cross flyover, but oh no...it was something different. My first quake, may it not be the last !

oh my oh my It was a mighty Earthquake here in London city ! Woo hooooooooooo Finally, some action in NW2. Its a sign.

The problem with 'concensus' of the dumb masses is that they are often usually wrong. I cite the German people...circa 1939-1945. - Do you really want to let the masses dictate to you even you ability to have a family, due to the flimsy argument that we 'might' be able to affect the climate in a better way ? Calrissian: the first and the last.

Reduce the human population to no more than 250 to 500 million. Problem solved. *You know, there are people high up working to achieve such an aim.

Some pretty impressive live coverage of Tornados... see: http://www.wreg.com/default.asp *by the way, if you're having problems getting audio - via wmp working on website...this registry fix works ! Its fixed a problem I've had since last summer, what a simple fix ! - http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6644_102-0.htm...ssageID=2416034 -- The Tornado coverage is pretty intense, maybe some of you might get to see it too. Calrissian: in a spin

Hmm, maybe its just me, but there is something rather icky about that picture. - Interesting...but definately - Q. What does the scale represent ? 5+ = 5 metres thick ice ? Calrissian: time for sleep.

For they can not see what their minds do not wish to accept. Regardless of the reason for the climate warming, only an idiot would deny the trend. Yes, only an idiot. Calrissian: onwards...and forwards !

No. ----- Calrissian: wheels firmly attached

1. I find it odd that you extrapolate that because we are currently having the 2 mildest consecutive Januarys ever recorded, that this by default might means we are moving to a cooler phase. Thats a weird logic. Maybe you'd like to elaborate on that. 2. So, we've got 2 super-mild Januarys in a row. You suggest that 'if next year and the one after' are also mild, that is new territory. *I thought we ARE in new territory anyway. I refer you to the fact that you did already mention we've got 2 mild Januarys. --- The thing is, the deniers (and I will not shun from that term) are seemingly forever pushing forwards their 'ohh, we need another few years of this, and then I'll consider it....new territory'. I've not trawled last Januarys CET thread (anyone got a link?), but I'd guess there would be people in there who would have claimed if next January was 'as mild', they consider it new territory, and yet who are now yet again suggesting 'ohh, another year or so'. -- Meanwhile, London city is a mild 13-15c, day and night. Its supposed to be winter, its more like a mild late spring/Aprils day. *ohh, and in case you wonder, I was (like many others here) suckered in by the hysterical cold rampers in late Dec' and went for a 4.5c CET. How could I be so naive and 'forgetful' that winters are now generally mild ? An interesting year ahead.

lol, now its 14c in the south of Her Majesty's realm. CET Jan of 7 ? Two years running, that'd be something for the books indeed.

Sunshine, ohh so low ! 10.2 ? Wow, that'd be amazing if that happened, and a real break from the recent decade trend/average. I really can't see this summer being anything near as bad as last year, not that it was that 'cool' anyway. We're just 17 days in, and already people are starting to realise that this January will be another mild one. --

Aye. I'm probably the most doomstersih person on this site (does the merit a special rank :lol: ? ), and yet of course, when the sun sets for the long winter in the north, you will of course get a pretty impressive floating ice-cap. The majority view will indeed swing to an entirely ice-free summer in the Arctic (by 2011 or so), but as noted...we'll see plenty of ice reform in the sunless winter. - Calrissian: smells of matt paint.

You do know, only smarties have the answer --- I do look forward to the next report '1000 eminent people prove global warming has stalled, ice-age iminent'. I'm sure it'll be funded by the Chinese coal board, or some other such unbiased group. - Calrissian: time to paint

Al Gore indeed. He is merely a washed up politician who has found himself now on a great bandwagon that gives him great credability and a lot of conference/speech-making money. I'm fine with the guy, but he is no climatologist, and does not merit serious attention when it comes to the issue. Same goes for the all the media hacks who proclaim themselves 'environmental correspondents', when almost none of them even have the most rudimentary understanding of climate science.

We were talking about CLIMATE SCIENCE, not the implications on scciety. Sure, economists and even sociologists would be useful in a report on 'possible' outcomes, but the ONLY people who should be touting data/research/theories are the climatologists.

Yes, 2 sides (or more) to an issue, but if the issue is CLIMATE SCIENCE, why would you be interested in the views of anyone who is not a climatologist ?

It is all very odd indeed how this kind of nonsense 'group of people support campaign x' stuff gets any respect. If I went to a doctor, whose only specialism was in fact Stellar Physics, just WHY would I - or anyone else, take any notice of what he thought about health ? - Indeed, the inclusion of the economists was particularly lame. By default their mindset is one of money, profit, and outright 'to hell with everything else, capitalism WILL rule' doctrine. - The only people who should be endorsing/compiling climate reports are indeed...none other than climatologists. *I remind the deniers of just how lame the IPCC report was, because it was hacked together, edited, and released by....politicians. In many respects, the IPCC report is perhaps the least scientific report ever released into the mainstream press. Calrissian: time for battlefield 2142

see: Inhofes 400 report dismissed -- As I expected, that much touted piece of junk report was supported by a group of people, few of whom have any relevance or understanding of the issue. Even worse, many of them are arguably have been totally bought out by companies/agencies who are actively promoting 'don't worry about GW, its not a problem'. As ever, regardless of which side of the debate you sit on, it'd be at least reasonable to attempt to ascertain the background of those who are writing the reports. Thats often not easy, but then, who said research was meant to be easy. Calrissian: time for Flash Gordon

Hmm, Mr Data, I really am a bit surprised at you. Are you really that much into numerology ? - I agree that there are some quirky statistics out there, but thats purely because with so many thousands of stats, some of them will doubtless look somewhat 'odd'. I'm sure that once we reach to May, we'll start to see some great summer days and then the '8' quirk can be ended. Calrissian: would not put Mr Data at the helm (Troi would be preferred)

re: external 'lifting' by rapid sea level change. Hmm, well, I'd guess though it'd be a very gradual thing though, since each area would be affected various amounts by the current sea level rise.