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Duncan McAlister

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  1. 15 hours ago, scott125 said:

    To me been  the poorest month of the summer for a long time now , i prefer early summer . Even September can be a lot better . In england and Europe its more a holiday month . I think early August has the highest average temperatures though. 

    Yep, May and September have been almost been the best 'summer' months with August poor and June/July a mixed bag, weird!

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  2. 36 minutes ago, Bring Back1962-63 said:

    PUTTING THE DEPTH OF THE PREDICTED COLD SPELL INTO CONTEXT 

    I have noted that there have been several queries regarding how the predicted very low 850 temperatures compare to the lowest values in earlier severe winters such as the example that I quote above. This is a very good question and as nobody appears to have answered this (unless I missed it) I shall do a comparison now. I'll start off with the lowest 850s predicted by ECM on their Feb 23rd 0z run. Other models are available!  Some models have shown slightly higher or lower values at slightly different times on different runs but the ECM is pretty representative of what we "might" expect. Then I go on to show the lowest values that I could find from the archives for the years requested and a few others too working backwards. Some of these might surprise you but I've doubled checked them. Although I might have missed a few examples, some do not appear as they did not quite make my sub -14c yardstick (eg: Feb 2009 got close).

                    ECM  Mar 1st  2018                                   March 11th 2013                                     December 1st 2010                                February 7th 1991                                     January 12th 1987

    ECM0-144.GIF   archives-2013-3-11-0-1.png  archives-2010-12-1-12-1.png  archives-1991-2-7-0-1.png  archives-1987-1-12-12-1.png

                   February 20th 1986                                  January 7th 1985                                      January 9th 1982                                    January 1st 1979                                     January 30th 1972  

    archives-1986-2-20-0-1.png   archives-1985-1-7-12-1.png  archives-1982-1-9-12-1.png  archives-1979-1-1-0-1.png  archives-1972-1-30-12-1.png

                       March 5th 1971                                       February 7th 1969                                     March 2nd 1965                                     February 2nd 1963                                 January 17th 1963 

    archives-1971-3-5-0-1.png   archives-1969-2-8-12-1.png  archives-1965-3-2-0-1.png  archives-1963-2-2-0-1.png  archives-1963-1-17-0-1.png

                     February 26th 1962                                  February 7th 1958                                 February 2nd 1956                                   February 23rd 1947                              January 31st 1947 

    archives-1962-2-26-0-1.png  archives-1958-2-7-0-1.png  archives-1956-2-2-0-1.png  archives-1947-2-23-0-1.png  archives-1947-1-31-0-1.png

                     January 24th 1947                                   February 21st 1942                                January 17th 1940                                    February 13th 1929                                 March 8th 1917   

    archives-1947-1-24-0-1.png  archives-1942-2-21-0-1.png  archives-1940-1-17-12-1.png  archives-1929-2-13-0-1.png  archives-1917-3-8-0-1.png

                     February 7th 1895                                  7th January 1891                                  27th November 1890                                      27th January 1881                                9th January 1879  

    archives-1895-2-7-0-1.png  archives-1891-1-7-12-1.png  archives-1890-11-27-0-1.png  archives-1881-1-21-0-1.png  archives-1879-1-9-12-1.png

    There were some very near misses with 850s as low as -28c in western and central Europe but only -8c over here. Although the coldest March in at least 150 years was in 1883, it never managed values below -12c. Both 1947 and 1962/63 saw repeated periods of sub -10c and sometimes sub -12c but 1962/'63 never managed sub -15s and 1947 only just managed a sub -16c. The 2018 spell looks like managing values below March 2013, well below December 2010, slightly below February 1991 on a par with February 1956, January 1940, February 1895 and November 1890 and almost as low as January 1987, the coldest in the 20th century. So this should be a truly exceptional period of cold and so late in the season! In terms of longevity, it may last longer than many of those other severe spells but perhaps not as long as March 2013 (time will tell) and certainly nowhere near matching 1947 or 1962/63. Finally, note that only February 1969 saw sub -14c 850s on a northerly and that was ushered in by a polar low event (there are a number of sub -12s) but all the others are polar continental flows from an easterly quarter.

    I'll be back with my Eurasia temperature report late this evening. 

     

    One of the most informative posts I've seen on here, a great reference. Thank you!

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