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http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn962.png The arctic plunge edges towards us on this run with some very cold dewpoints, wishing for some warmth now so not good news. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn9610.png http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/run/UN72-7.GIF?03-17 - Blimey.

Yes as i feared earlier in the week the easterly has just brought lots of cloud cover with very limited sunshine, winds aren't southeasterly enough off France for the lovely crisp sunshine they bring unfortunately, temp here currently 5C just 3C in cottesmore i see.

No summer blizzard March 2003 was perfect springlike weather. I'm hoping we can pull up some warm 850`s like in March 2003, had my fill of cold weather now to be honest it just seems to go on and on, some nice mild dewpoints would be very welcome indeed, its just been so cold this week out of the sun, my bedroom is really cold when i get home in the evening as it's opposite facing to the sun. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/2003/Rrea00120030317.gif http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/2003/Rrea00220030317.gif 　 　

http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png Very cold 850`s in the short term, amazing how long this cold winter has gone on into the spring, we were supposed to be in milder wetter atlantic based weather by now but still blocking keeps it cold.

Also it looks like some are being a bit hasty, looking at the 06Z ensembles some runs do bring in an easterly and some bitterly cold 850`s. http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=84&code=10&mode=0&runpara= http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=96&code=19&mode=0&runpara= http://91.121.94.83/modeles/gens/run/gens-12-1-120.png?6 http://91.121.94.83/modeles/gens/run/gens-3-0-144.png?6

Well CC i think scotland and northern ireland have had a severe winter and down here not far off one either, depends on what your definition of severe is but in scotland i`m sure some will say they have had as near to severe they have ever known. It feels bitterly cold for March this morning nevermind what saturday shows and with bone chilling dewpoints like this for early next week, mild it ain't. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn12610.png Nights will actually be alot colder than if we had a brisk easterly flow http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn14417.png

Very cold yesterday morning got down to -3C, this morning is more cloudy with a biting easterly wind, 1C but feels alot colder, brrr wheres spring.

BBC said yesterday was pleasantly warm, what a joke that was when i came out of work at 5 30 pm it felt so cold i wish i had my gloves ands scarfs on, everyone else in the rush hour was wearing scarfs and gloves so much for the pleasant warmth hey

lol spot on karyo still can't believe the moaning after one of the best winters of my lifetime and i`m even not in the north, if this winter is what near misses produces then i can't wait for the big one to occur when they hit us dead on No sign of proper spring(i don't call faux spring with cold dewpoints spring) with chilly continental air and then atlantic undercutting HP to our northwest like brickfielder thought.

Friday looks like a spell of rain pushing southwards so its not all sunshine and light and we could start to pick up more cloud in the south, east and central areas from tonight as winds back easterly. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/brack2a.gif Nogaps has been the one model very bullish about LP moving around the high from the north undercutting the high on friday so should be given credit if this is correct.

Some very cold 850`s for the time of year showing on the runs and ensembles this morning for this weekend, i think 06Z we can forget about as its a complete outlier. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_London_ens.png

Coldageddon run from GFS 12Z, very wintry run indeed http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3362.png http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3121.png Pretty much inline with brickfielders thoughts for the first half of March at least. http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/run/UN120-21.GIF?01-17 - Looks like bitterly cold nights this weekend with some very cold dewpoints being dragged in

Should clear by saturday night though with a harsh frost setting in, a very impressive cold arctic plunge into europe and just clipping the far southeast/south, i wonder if future runs will trend that back towards us for the weekend. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn13810.png http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1322.png http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn13817.png

Yes disappointing for southeastern areas now for saturday, a cold, overcast and raw day expected alot different feeling than today thats for sure. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1201.png

Ok cheers for your reply :lol: Yes warmer drier April/May periods tend to lead to cooler wetter summers so hopefully a wetter April/May period will promote a warmer drier summer than the past three summers :lol: The atlantic dominating April/May isn't all bad news for April especially though as we can get some traditional April showery PM type northwesterly/westerly airstreams with warm sunny periods and convective showers with hail some wintriness and thunder

lol don't worry nick conor always goes for the warmest month on record, he infamously went for 20C one August as ever he was way off the mark. :lol:

http://www.meto.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2010/pr20100301.html I think this very noteworthy press release deserves its own thread. In Scotland and Northern Ireland it's been the coldest winter since 1962/63, even more astonishing :lol:

Thanks brickfielder, you say the atlantic winning yes towards the spring equinox you would expect the atlantic to awaken from its slumber, you are expecting a negative NAO with AO tending towards neutral so are you favouring HP retrogressing northwestwards and allowing the awakening atlantic to undercut the high and dive into france only really affecting southern england and keeping most of the UK cool to cold? When you say which will change the pattern do you mean HP centred over northern UK or just to our north slipping into europe and allowing the atlantic in that way? Would you expect a cool zonal or mild zonal flow if that was the case?

Winter 2009/10 was one of the best winters i've experienced(born in the 70`s), it was like old skool winters of the 1980`s but better because of the lack of mild even cold winters had back then, next winter is very unlikely to be as good on a prolonged consistent basis so i expect alot of people moaning even more than this winter just gone.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn123.png Feeling chilly out of the sun, 7C, hardly what i would call mild today with 528 dam line near the south coast.

No sign of any mild flow on the ensembles, a very decent start to March seems likely now with HP ruling the roost like it did most of the winter Temps may reach near average values in prolonged sunshine but i can assure you night mins will not reach average values and could be more than 5C below average quite widely, a cold first week to March on the CET scale seems assured http://www.wzkarten3.de/pics/MT8_Manchester_ens.png

Actually i feel UKMO 00Z T+144 hrs looks more wintry than ECM, GFS, GEM at T+144 hrs, some ensemble members show similar. http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/run/UW144-21.GIF?28-06

So according to and the traditionalists summer doesn't start until June 21st, LOL, tell the weather that it can feel very hot in that very powerful early to mid June sun And it can feel very cold in that very weak early to mid Dec sun Yes exactly my thoughts staying chilly especially at night with night frosts possible almost anywhere, no sign of any spring warmth, i don't classify daytime highs of 7C to 10C as spring warmth as its around average in early to mid March, when temps rise widely to 13C to 15C with light winds and mild dewpoints is when spring is here.

Latest 3 to 5 dayer from UKMO for the midlands. Not much sign of dull southeasterlies

LOL the ensemble mean remains quite consistent though frosty