Dartmoor_Matt

Aha! I know, but surely there will be one warm evening this spring/summer?

Evening Ian, Yup finally I think we can look forward to some 'spring' like weather, and not before time. The snowdrops haven't flowered up here yet, but I suspect this week will help them out, very late this year. Can't wait to be able to sit out on the decking, looking over the hills of Dartmoor on a warm evening with friends, BBQ and chilled drinks.

Mis-judgement or the warming bias that the former chairman wants investigated?

Regularly gets above 25C here in the summer, last June it was pretty much above 28C for the whole of the last week. Bliss. Sonnia: you can few the models by clicking on weather at the top of the page and then data centre, you can then pick the various models, which chart you want then which timescale. As for gales, Spotlight just went for 'a possibility of strong winds' but also snow tonight over the tops of Dartmoor, Exmoor and Bodmin.

Temp has fallen away to 2.1C here, quite a rapid drop from earlier and feeling sub zero in the wind from the NW. I think we might get some wet stuff up here later, I shall stick my head out every now and again. Certainly some very dark (could be because it was getting dark) to the north earlier. Failing that, 25C and sunny would be OK to...

And our survey says... BBC News Anyway, thats not really climate change related. I thought the conversation was drifting towards the possibility of one area of the globe experiencing an ice-age (or similar) which other areas see warming. Neither of which is out of the question as far as I know. Especially as this year and last we have seen pretty much cooler temps in the same areas as this year while other areas have warmer temps. Did we have temperature records from 10,000+ years ago? I'm not going to go and dig out the information, I've read it already, but I'd of thought it was entirely plausible to have one winter with cold temperatures and then a cold summer and hey presto.

Yes, according to new research a few months ago.

The last ice-age came about in 6 months. Which I find pretty quick. Comparatively.

So thats two years of lower temps in some areas of the NH and lower hurricane activity...interesting.

Rain last night, but dry today, mild and overcast though

So, warm = more snow, why did it rain last night then? I think what we see here is a case of "oh, damn, what are we going to explain this away with" How many more years of more snow will it take for the stance to change? How many thought last year was a one off? Oh and just for the record, right wing isn't all down to economics, suprisingly. If you actually read the article is talks about countries generally becoming more right wing, Australia, Germany, USA and the UK all have or are likely to have a right wing party in power, with the socialists barely hanging on in France, Italy and Spain. Anyway, the article was to do with the AGW debate down under and the opposition parties stance in relation to public opinion. (Amongst other things) Very interesting it was to. I can't find it online, but was in Saturdays paper. Oh, and the UK while becoming more conservative (with a small 'c') in financial matters is becoming far more liberal (with a small 'l') in social matters.

Don't all the records come from the same dataset (the 'adjusted' one that is)

But again, are we seeing a global shift somewhat. How can the NH be 'notably warmer' and covered in more snow at the same time? So perhaps the notably warmer applies in the SH, while areas of the NH start to cool due to other forces. (Gulf Stream etc.) All this right wing crap is starting to wear a little thin. The whole world is moving more right wing, so get used to it. (See report in Saturday Times)

More questions being raised: Sunday Times - Environment Feb 14th The Times - Environment Feb 15th

Evening, Seemed to be snow all the way down and even out to sea on the graphics, but then was showing 8c for Plymouth. So I guess that means it could go either way Best not be rain, because that would suck. As for the MO thread... I am of the opinion people in there know only how to look at a chart, rather than the ability to 'forecast' as the moods change with every run.

I went to uni there so still follow them when needed... mostly when playing Scumhampton On a weather note, BBC forecast just showed snow for the north of our area on Monday and almost everywhere in our area for Tuesday...

It has been a pretty cold week, I think my max up here all week was about 2.3C, today hasn't been above freezing. You couldn't make up mild air coming from the north of all places.

On the plus side, Pompey whipped S'oton, so not a bad day all round

I think some perspective is needed by some quarters here. This thread is the General Climate Change Discussion not a thread where you need a PhD in some relevant subject. As such I think a discussion on a climate shift the other way for some regions of the world is perfectly apt, even if the AGWers don't like to hear it.

Surely far healthier to have a bowl of mussels, with a glass of chilled wine and someone lovely to share with... I suppose the 12z is out now.... (yes, to make it on topic)

I think your milk might be off if its making you hear the wine calling your name.... Don't get me wrong, I love the cold but this winter has just been a little OTT for our little country. But I guess it beats wet weather any time of the year.

Suits me. Cider? I attempted to go and sit in the sun earier, but forgot it was stil Feb and therefore rather chilly. Still, only a month or so and it could be up to 20C .... oh please!

It won't snow. (Does reverse pyschology work with the weather?) It's officially the weekend now! (well, its not, but can be!)

Thanks for that! Fingers crossed then :unsure:

So, SSS, as you know the answer what do you intend to do about it?