La Bise

As everybody seems bored to tears with the models, I've got a little task for you chaps for which I would be quite grateful, what's your considered opinion on the possible weather in Snowdonia for the week-end of the 20/21st of March...? Return of the Atlantic and the damp or stuck in settled conditions? MetO reckons it's the former.

They are right to give up, not because they are any worse than others but because the way the ghastly UK media twist everything they say to suit their agenda. You don't end up providing half of the world airlines with meteo data AND being a rubbish forecaster. As for that old chestnut about Joe B, all he does is forecast cold winters, as some point even a broken clock ends up right.

My wife and I last night agreed we would miss the sound of snow crunching under our boots whislt we were walking atop a drift by a wall near Shining Tor...Great conditions for a walk under the stars at the moment, last night was very quiet so no nasty wind to chill you to the bones. <sigh> Soon enough the nights will fill with heady scents and buzzing insects, a different kind of pleasure I guess...

I've found conditions underfoot quite damp in the hills, well in those parts that are not under snow but that could be down to slow snow-melt.

A cracker of a morning, frozen and blue skies. Now the sun is out and it's lovely. The white hills of the Peak District are a plus also.

Not a day to go out lightly dressed today, very little sun and a cold wind blowing, spring my backside...

People wishing for the Atlantic to come back because there is nice fat high bringing us some sunshine ought to be hung and quartered*. Go out, enjoy the actual weather, switch off the computer, get a life!! Excellent models outputs, a period of quiet weather, Atlantic dominance is on the cards by mid-month onwards and one suspects this time it will be real (of course the return of the swlies has been progred many times without delivering) rather than figment of the models "imagination". * Not really eh, I'm joking, thank you...

Let's be a bit wary here and not do a reverse-Ian Brown with resounding predictions of cold winters from now on due to solar minimas, etc, etc

The last two winters have had that "always cold" feel, even more so the one just gone. That is a sign of a consistent season, much more so than a few good dumps packaged between swerlies.

Seasons are fluid, some years winter will be short-lived, other it will drag forever. The current synoptics are winter ones and the 1st of March is just an arbitrary date set by people rather than some natural trigger, spring is nowhere near at the moment. When it arrives, it will probably be quite spectacular rather than the dull trickle that is usually is when the seasons follow the pattern of years gone by. It's not as we have had a surfeit of long, cold winters in recent years...

Contact them, it might be something that could of interest to them. Met forums are quite popular so there is a market for it.

For those of us who enjoy their fell-walking, cold and/or snow is not an issue. Cold=frozen mud=clean hike and snow turns the most mundane of hikes into an adventure. Not every hiker enjoys it, of course, but once you're hooked on winter conditions hiking, you are hooked for life. In my opinion, a frozen, clear day, up hills loaded with snow is unbeatable.

The snowline seems to be just about right for the upper parts of the Peak District and even if it rains a bit, it will help consolidate snow up there when it gets cold again from friday. Excellent.

Western slopes in Langdale were pretty bare of snow yesterday at lower levels but eastern slopes remained white throughout.

That's a nice way to wake up! After yesterday's frolicking in the snow of the Lake District fells, I've got my own little winter wonderland outside the window...joy!

Well, I had my fix of snow on the Lakeland fells today...like being in the Alps up there!

I can't help thinking that with the setup we have synoptics wise(and possibly also the low solar output), we ought to get colder conditions but the warming trend is suppressing this up to a point. Having seen many times chart-diggers post older charts that looke almost carbon copies of some of the stuff we have seen and resulted in more severe events lead me to that conclusion

I thought it was precisely the opposite that would end up being the case, which has been our lot for the last decade up until this winter and up to a point last winter. Anyhow, dangerous territory...

Yep, my idea of the British as a bunch of hardy and stoical types has been truly put to rest this winter...Glad to see there are some left Eugene

I enjoy it on the hills and mountains of England, best place to be in winter if you like snow...Excellent news about the deer starving in Scotland, there are waaaay too many of them, with no natural predator and they are causing lots of damage to the eco-system. The arctic hares in the Peak District on the other hand are happy, ahem, bunnies, for once the white coat will hide them from flying predators rather than highlight them in hills devoid of snow...

Feels cold out there, that haze/fog is keeping temps low but let enough sun to filter through to make it a clear day.

Sunny and frozen here, a lovely winter morning. But it's clouding over and the snowy Peak District is out of sight.

Flips-flops and bermuda this morning mate, winter is over don't you know!

Well, things have changed, if it's snow, Yorkshire Dales are a pretty good proposition. PFC will be bust soon so you'll need another team, I hear Leeds got a few decent firms, if your alias is a football reference

That temperature evolution has been a regular feature this winter, as Mr Data pointed out, not a day yet here in the Manchester area when temps have reached double figures and yet they had been progged a few times.