Carinthians Latest Arctic Reports - (Summer 2007)

[Osbourne One-Nil]

A new thread, as requested by the man himself.

[carinthian]

A new thread, as requested by the man himself.

Thanks OON,

Maybe the last thread was getting too long. What I will try and do is split these reports into seasonal Reports. I will start the summer update on the 1st June and continue to run to the end of August. Hope this is to the satisfaction of Summer Blizzard and the many other interested viewers and posters.

C

[John Cox]

Thanks Carinthian,

I look forward to your reports as usual with eagerness

[AtlanticFlamethrower]

Will the North Pole be completely frozen over this year?

Man aims to swim at North Pole

TIM MOYNIHAN

BRITISH adventurer Lewis Gordon Pugh is to take on his toughest challenge yet - swimming at the geographic North Pole, it was announced yesterday.

He will be the first person to swim there, in water temperatures of -1.8C - the coldest waters in which a human has ever swam, a spokesman said.

He is making the 1km swim in an area that should be frozen over, to demonstrate the impact of climate change.

Pugh expects the Investec North Pole Challenge, on 15 July, will take approximately 21 minutes. He will swim in just a swimming costume, cap and goggles.

It would certainly be ironic if they sailed to perform the ridiculous stunt to highlight global warming only to discover their route blocked by thick ice.

Still if he manages the swim he might be the only human to ever to do it before the next ice age.

[BLAST FROM THE PAST]

Will the North Pole be completely frozen over this year?

It would certainly be ironic if they sailed to perform the ridiculous stunt to highlight global warming only to discover their route blocked by thick ice.

Still if he manages the swim he might be the only human to ever to do it before the next ice age.

Like this one albeit thanks to IAN?

Here

BFTP

Edited May 29, 2007 by BLAST FROM THE PAST

[oldsnowywizard]

quick overview...

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IM...current.365.jpg

sea ice levels just above 10.5 million sq miles... up on last year, which was just under 10.5 mil

again its the sea ice concentration map, which is fairly impressive.. with the exception of the large hole in the Laptev area, the comparison of this year with the previous 5 years is positive

2002 - http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IM...VE/20020529.png

2003 - http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IM...VE/20030529.png

2004 - http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IM...VE/20040529.png - similar to todays map

2005 - n/a

2006 - http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IM...VE/20060529.jpg

2007 - http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/arctic.jpg

usual ts and cs associated of course ;-)

[Guest Viking141]

Carinth, probably a daft question but here goes......the white areas is that snow cover as opposed to ice cover?

[carinthian]

Carinth, probably a daft question but here goes......the white areas is that snow cover as opposed to ice cover?

Hi Viking 141,

If you can tell me what site you are looking at, I will be able to tell you. There are various reports that show just sea ice and others that include Land snow or both.

Thanks

C

[Guest Viking141]

Hi Viking 141,

If you can tell me what site you are looking at, I will be able to tell you. There are various reports that show just sea ice and others that include Land snow or both.

Thanks

C

Ah, sorry! The Crysophere piccys oldsnowy posted. The deep purple is the ice cover, i was assuming the white is snow cover since white isnt on the scale on the left hand side?

[carinthian]

Ah, sorry! The Crysophere piccys oldsnowy posted. The deep purple is the ice cover, i was assuming the white is snow cover since white isnt on the scale on the left hand side?

Yep Viking you have assumed correctly. The deeper purple indicates the greatest concentration of sea ice and the white is land snow cover. I not sure what the grey colours indicate. Greenland is always covered white to indicate glacier ice and snow cover which is almost a permanent feature.

Cheers

C

[Guest Viking141]

So not only is the ice cover up but it looks like a helluva lot more snow cover as well. Good news.

[carinthian]

So not only is the ice cover up but it looks like a helluva lot more snow cover as well. Good news.

hi Viking,

I will produce a latest up-date on the June Ist. Reports coming in do seem to be more encouraging than for quite a while. Good news indeed.

Regards

C

[BLAST FROM THE PAST]

hi Viking,

I will produce a latest up-date on the June Ist. Reports coming in do seem to be more encouraging than for quite a while. Good news indeed.

Regards

C

Nice

BFTP

[noggin]

Looking good then. Fingers crossed. I shall be following Carinth's reports very closely and with great interest.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to the level/degree of ice cover and what, if any, effect it has on our weather. (unless I am being totally thick and we know that it does already affect it?)

Edited May 31, 2007 by noggin

[NorthantsSnow]

I will produce a latest up-date on the June Ist. Reports coming in do seem to be more encouraging than for quite a while. Good news indeed.

Sorry in advance if this is a really dumb question, but how so?

How does this impact on us?

[Optimus Prime]

The arcic basing is showing quite some decline on the average now....it's all down hill from now on.

[NorthYorksWeather]

does anyone have the link which shows current artic ice and snow cover? thanks

[carinthian]

The arcic basing is showing quite some decline on the average now....it's all down hill from now on.

I will answer the above with the following observations as on the last day of spring :

For the past month the average air pressure at the pole has been 1020mb and over Northern Greenland 1016mb, this would indicate that the Arctic Oscillation is in a negative phase. The average May temp around the pole has been recorded at -10C, that approx 4 C lower than the mean average. These facts have been born out bya persistant retention of concentrated ice cover over the Arctic Basin. This colder circulation has also affected areas of the Mid- Arctic, particularly in the North Barent and the Eastern Arctic Sector of Canada. Three note worthy observations this past month are :

a)Greenland Basin continues to show substantially more old ice cover than last year.

b)Plenty of fast ice in the Lower Laptev and East Siberian Sea. This is probably stimulated by the ice floes out of the Yana Delta and the melting snows from the Verkhoyanskiy Range into the other Arctic Rim river Basins.

c) Good snow retention in the Taymyr Peninsula and sea ice in Kara and the North Barent. This may indicate that a persistant spring cold block has held the very warm advection of Tc airmass at bay over Russian. Remember, last year Tc pushed well into the Lower Arctic Regions in this area.

Tomorrow, I will give a up-date on Northern Hemisphere Sea ice based on analysed visual,Infa Red and radar observations.

C

[oldsnowywizard]

a quick overview based on cryosphere...

overall northern hemisphere -

Not as bad as last year in fact more or less 500k sq km up..not bad at all.. and as previously posted..sea ice concentrations are doing much better than last year.

Artic basin - around the mean level and much better than last year.

Bearing - equal to the mean

Baffin - just below the mean, looks to be 200k sq km up on last year..

greenland - below the mean, just slightly better than last year

Barents - nearly 300k sq km down on the mean... but slightly better than last year

Kara - just below the mean, better than last year

laptev - 100k sq km down on the mean, doing worse than last year - may have something to do with the nice big hole in the ice...

Eastern Siberian - Equal to the mean and better than last year

chuckchi - equal to the mean and last years value

beaufort - equal to the mean and slightly worse than last year

canadian - equal to the mean , better than last year

hudson - just down on the mean - almost 300k sq kms better than last year

Antarctica - above the mean and better than last year so far

all in all - not bad considering the times... not bad at all..

[Optimus Prime]

Yes, pretty impressive considering since 2006 there are 18 million extra cars on the road since, 75 million more people in the world, more deforestation (less trees) and 62 million more barrels of oil in the air.

Pretty dim figures for people hoping for a recovery off ice and snow in the next few decades.

[carinthian]

a quick overview based on cryosphere...

overall northern hemisphere -

Not as bad as last year in fact more or less 500k sq km up..not bad at all.. and as previously posted..sea ice concentrations are doing much better than last year.

Artic basin - around the mean level and much better than last year.

Bearing - equal to the mean

Baffin - just below the mean, looks to be 200k sq km up on last year..

greenland - below the mean, just slightly better than last year

Barents - nearly 300k sq km down on the mean... but slightly better than last year

Kara - just below the mean, better than last year

laptev - 100k sq km down on the mean, doing worse than last year - may have something to do with the nice big hole in the ice...

Eastern Siberian - Equal to the mean and better than last year

chuckchi - equal to the mean and last years value

beaufort - equal to the mean and slightly worse than last year

canadian - equal to the mean , better than last year

hudson - just down on the mean - almost 300k sq kms better than last year

Antarctica - above the mean and better than last year so far

all in all - not bad considering the times... not bad at all..

Thats a good report, Wizard. Certainly the polar ice edge is much more advanced than last year in the North Barent and the Greenland Basin is reporting a lot more old ice to start the summer season. The Kara breaks up irregular at this time of the year due to the huge ice floes and the volume of melted snow coming out of the great river deltas.

C

[kippure]

Thats a good report, Wizard. Certainly the polar ice edge is much more advanced than last year in the North Barent and the Greenland Basin is reporting a lot more old ice to start the summer season. The Kara breaks up irregular at this time of the year due to the huge ice floes and the volume of melted snow coming out of the great river deltas.

C

How long before this breaks up?

[carinthian]

How long before this breaks up?

Some years it never does at Barrow Point. Last October you could see open water are far as the eye could see. This occurred during a warm Autumn in the West Canadian Arctic Sector, particularly in the Beaufort Sea.

C

[carinthian]

Yes, pretty impressive considering since 2006 there are 18 million extra cars on the road since, 75 million more people in the world, more deforestation (less trees) and 62 million more barrels of oil in the air.

Pretty dim figures for people hoping for a recovery off ice and snow in the next few decades.

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Yep, OP, grim figures indeed. My views to control birthrate would not be politically correct, but how about the World Bank to pay every male £1,000 for a "snip " (on a voluntary basis of course) The simple and clean cut solution.

Global Warming cured by the cutting knife of technology, as so to speak, then bring on the ice age .

C

[Iceberg]

Some extreme warmth looks to be coming up from Alaska next week.

850 temps look to be as high as 15C with widespead pluses available all the way to the North Pole.

Edited June 2, 2007 by Iceberg