Elenin.

[Staffordshire]

Didn't really know where to put this sorry if it's wrong catagory! IMO commet elenin has a damn lot of proof to back it up! If you don't know what It is have a look on YouTube, if there was nothing to worry about why would NASA be trying to cover it up?

Possible dates

September 26th 2011

November 9th 2011. Next 9/11?

Your opinions?

[Backtrack]

NASA are covering nothing up?

So what the deal with comet elenin, there does not seem to be too much credible information. Everyone seems to be freaking out about it, but no one even knows how big it is. Does this comet pose a threat and what is its size and nature? AND I have read about comet Elenin and how some nasa people want to keep it a secret. what are the chances of it coming to earth and what threat does it bring with it, and has this comet got anything to do with 2012 hoax? AND Elinin is only .117 au from earth on mar 11,2011. From march 8 to mar 15, 2011, what are the chances that Elinin either impacts us, or gets close enough to cause a major catastrophy. Please be honest.

I have been receiving many questions about Comet Elenin. Many of them refer to the outrageous lies on some conspiracy theory websites, which are amplified by people who seem to think this comet is highly unusual. It is not unusual, and it is not a threat to Earth. See the Wikipedia article on this comet [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2010_X1] for more information. C2010 X1 Elenin (to give its full name) is a long-period comet, which takes about 10,000 years to complete one orbit around the Sun. It was discovered with a robotic telescope in New Mexico on 10 December 2010 by Russian amateur astronomer Leonid Elenin. When comets or asteroids are first discovered, their orbits are quite uncertain; usually it takes several months of observations to firmly establish the orbit. Elenin's perihelion (closest to the Sun) is in early September 2011 at a distance from the Sun of 40-45 million miles. It will be closest to Earth on about 16 October, at a distance of about 21 million miles, which is nearly a hundred times farther than the Moon. The comet never comes close to the Earth, but it is expected to be visible in binoculars during August and October. Part of the Internet chatter concerns its size. Comets are exceedingly small and enveloped in a tenuous cloud of gas and dust, so the only way to be sure of their actual dimensions is to visit with a spacecraft. Half a dozen comets have been the target of spacecraft missions, and all of them (even Comet Halley) are less than 10 km in diameter. There is no reason to think Elenin is any different. This means its mass is less than one billionth the mass of the Earth. Needless to say, we will not be aware of the tiny gravitational pull from Elenin. In spite of these simple facts, some websites (such as godlikeproductions) are making wild claims that Elenin will hit the Earth, or disturb our orbit, or cause tides, or interact with our magnetic field. Such claims are pure fiction. One of the worst examples is a video that someone posted on the NASAbuzzroom website that claims that the magnetic field of the comet will cause a large shift in the rotation axis of the Earth and produce mega-earthquakes on March 15, 2011. It is hard to imagine anyone would take this seriously. Comets don't have magnetic fields, and magnetic fields can't change the rotation axis or cause earthquakes no matter how large they are. Adding to the craziness is a claim that this same comet caused the Earth's axis to shift by 3 degrees in February 2010 and caused the Chile Earthquake. These are simply lies; the comet was far away a year ago, and there was no change whatever in Earth's rotation axis. The Chile earthquake was a normal slippage in an active fault that has produced many previous earthquakes, including the one witnessed by Charles Darwin in 1835. Please remember that just because someone says he or she is from NASA doesn't make it true. Many people who post YouTube videos lie about their affiliation. Incidentally, only NASA is allowed to use the NASA logo, the blue circle with the word NASA and a satellite orbiting around it.

[shuggee]

Yes, I was thinking something similar - NASS (sic) or perhaps that should read NASA are covering it up remarkably well:

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-135

Or perhaps they are aren't covering it up, but have put word out that they are covering it up, so that the covering up of the cover up covers up the cover up?

[Backtrack]

Yes, I was thinking something similar - NASS (sic) or perhaps that should read NASA are covering it up remarkably well:

http://www.jpl.nasa....elease=2011-135

Or perhaps they are aren't covering it up, but have put word out that they are covering it up, so that the covering up of the cover up covers up the cover up?

How are they covering it up?

They say it wont even be visable to the naked eye, and that diagram shows just that?

They wouldn't be allowed to cover it up, I would rather trust NASA's official website than posts on a forum.

Mr Sarcastee

Edited June 28, 2011 by Vegito

[azores92]

is this just a conspiracy regarding a comet? hasnt the guy who discovered this comet said it is harmless? is it just scaremongering tactics by americans.

[Backtrack]

is this just a conspiracy regarding a comet? hasnt the guy who discovered this comet said it is harmless? is it just scaremongering tactics by americans.

That's exactly what it is. NASA have said it is harmless, 22 million miles is hardly a couple of miles away from Earth, it's 10 times the distance from the Earth to the Moon. So IMO there is HOPEFULLY nothing to worry about!! :lol:

[paul m]

I hope i get a storm before that hits Nasa has people working on every scenario so dont panic.

[catgirl]

More conspiracy rubbish to control the paranoid, it's a tad tiresome, if I'm honest.

Firstly, anyone can find coincidences in numbers and dates and things.

And secondly, anyone who has the smallest of knowledge in geology, astronomy and simple physics will understand the improbability of comet Elenin having an effect on Earth.

Avoid the conspiracy forums at all costs, they're full of bigoted fools who confuse their mental health issues for common sense.

[A.J]

Yes, I was thinking something similar - NASS (sic) or perhaps that should read NASA are covering it up remarkably well:

http://www.jpl.nasa....elease=2011-135

Or perhaps they are aren't covering it up, but have put word out that they are covering it up, so that the covering up of the cover up covers up the cover up?

:wacko:...makes you sound like Humphrey from 'Yes Minister" shuggs :lol:

[Methuselah]

Sorry...But I'm having trouble connecting the orbital motion of a comet and the incessant ramblings of certain conspiracy nuts...

Or - could the only connection be that both phenomena are entirely random and witless?

[Coast]

I'm having trouble connecting the orbital motion of a comet and the incessant ramblings of certain conspiracy nuts...

Haven't seen PP for a while now actually

[Methuselah]

Haven't seen PP for a while now actually

[Devonian]

Didn't really know where to put this sorry if it's wrong catagory! IMO commet elenin has a damn lot of proof to back it up! If you don't know what It is have a look on YouTube, if there was nothing to worry about why would NASS be trying to cover it up?

Possible dates

September 26th 2011

November 9th 2011. Next 9/11?

Your opinions?

Just did a search on this, blimey, what a load of old bunkum and tosh it revealed.

Still, at least it will get us before the Mayans, or was it planet X :lol:

[yamkin]

Didn't really know where to put this sorry if it's wrong catagory! IMO commet elenin has a damn lot of proof to back it up! If you don't know what It is have a look on YouTube, if there was nothing to worry about why would NASS be trying to cover it up?

Possible dates

September 26th 2011

November 9th 2011. Next 9/11?

Your opinions?

Take a look at these. Very interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vytSDvpBgss&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Oky2D6-4Q&feature=player_embedded

Edited July 27, 2011 by yamkin

[stormforce 10]

the prophets are predicting huge event between september to november, so something is brewing.

[Red Raven]

Take a look at these. Very interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vytSDvpBgss&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Oky2D6-4Q&feature=player_embedded

My god!!!! :wallbash: :wallbash:

[Coast]

Reality Check

Comet Elenin will sweep nearest to Earth on Oct. 16 at a distance of 21 million miles and be moving fast enough to travel the distance from Earth to the moon in under five hours! The effects of the comet on Earth at closest approach will be as inconsequential as that of a mosquito slamming head-on into an ocean-going supertanker.

Let's look at the physics. Comet Elenin is a loose agglomeration of volatile ices and dust a few miles across. It is therefore one hundred billionth the mass of our moon. (The relative difference is roughly the same as the mass of a mosquito vs. the mass of an oil supertanker.)

The comet will pass no closer to us than 84 times the Earth-moon distance.

Applying Isaac Newton’s laws of gravity, this means the comet's tidal pull on Earth -- at closest approach -- will be approximately one-hundred trillionth the force of the moon's tidal pull on Earth. And, we all now know that despite the dreaded Supermoon hype last week, there were no monster storms or earthquakes triggered by our satellite's gravitational tug at closest approach to Earth.

What's more, comets get the worst end of the deal when they venture near larger bodies -- just like that mosquito slamming into the supertanker. Some comets dive-bomb the sun routinely. What happens? They disintegrate into pieces. The same held true for comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 that was ripped apart by tidal forces when it ventured too close to Jupiter. When the comet pieces plunged into Jupiter in 1994, the planet simply belched a few mushroom clouds from titanic impact explosions.

On May 11, 1983 comet IRAS-Araki-Alcock swept within 3 million miles of Earth –- one of the closest comet approaches in modern times. The visitor looked as big as the full moon and sped across a wide swath of sky in just a few days. That same day saw an explosion of protests in Santiago, Chile against the decade-long rule of General Augusto Pinochet. Unless you’re an astrologer, the comet's influence was not to blame.

The closest ever-recoded flyby of Earth was comet Lexell in 1770, which passed at 1.4 million miles. On Jan. 26th that year a magnitude 9 earthquake took place off the west coast of the North America. Similarly, many coincidences will happen this year that people will want to blame on comet Elenin. The most bizarre link is that the comet's closest approach to the sun happens on the 10th anniversary of the combined terrorist attacks on the U.S. "Is it a coincidence that Elenin could be seen as "Elevennine" (9/11 backwards)?" asks one conspiracy website.

In the cosmic scheme of things, comet Elenin is simply a nice target for backyard sky watchers to follow. But Earth as a planet isn't phased at all.

http://news.discovery.com/space/will-earthbound-comet-fulfill-2012-prophecy.html

Oh well back to this thread then: http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/67700-mayans-doomsday-2012/

[yamkin]

My god!!!! :wallbash: :wallbash:

And there's this http://www.disclose.tv/frameset.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fendgametime.wordpress.com%2Fcomet-elenin-let-their-be-light%2F

[Coast]

Reality Check 2

You may have heard the news: Comet Elenin is coming to the inner-solar system this fall. Comet Elenin (also known by its astronomical name C/2010 X1), was first detected on Dec. 10, 2010 by Leonid Elenin, an observer in Lyubertsy, Russia, who made the discovery "remotely" using the ISON-NM observatory near Mayhill, New Mexico. At the time of the discovery, the comet was about 647 million kilometers (401 million miles) from Earth. Over the past four-and-a-half months, the comet has – as comets do – closed the distance to Earth's vicinity as it makes its way closer to perihelion (its closest point to the sun). As of May 4, Elenin's distance is about 274 million kilometers (170 million miles).

"That is what happens with these long-period comets that come in from way outside our planetary system," said Don Yeomans of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "They make these long, majestic, speedy arcs through our solar system, and sometimes they put on a great show. But not Elenin. Right now that comet looks kind of wimpy."

How does a NASA scientist define cometary wimpiness?

"We're talking about how a comet looks as it safely flies past us," said Yeomans. "Some cometary visitors arriving from beyond the planetary region – like Hale-Bopp in 1997 -- have really lit up the night sky where you can see them easily with the naked eye as they safely transit the inner-solar system. But Elenin is trending toward the other end of the spectrum. You'll probably need a good pair of binoculars, clear skies, and a dark, secluded location to see it even on its brightest night."

Comet Elenin should be at its brightest shortly before the time of its closest approach to Earth on Oct. 16 of this year. At its closest point, it will be 35 million kilometers (22 million miles) from us. Can this icy interloper influence us from where it is, or where it will be in the future? What about this celestial object inspiring some shifting of the tides or even tectonic plates here on Earth? There have been some incorrect Internet speculations that external forces could cause comet Elenin to come closer.

"Comet Elenin will not encounter any dark bodies that could perturb its orbit, nor will it influence us in any way here on Earth," said Yeomans. "It will get no closer to Earth than 35 million kilometers [about 22 million miles]. "

"Comet Elenin will not only be far away, it is also on the small side for comets," said Yeomans. "And comets are not the most densely-packed objects out there. They usually have the density of something akin to loosely packed icy dirt.

"So you've got a modest-sized icy dirtball that is getting no closer than 35 million kilometers," said Yeomans. "It will have an immeasurably miniscule influence on our planet. By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean's tides than comet Elenin ever will."

Yeomans did have one final thought on comet Elenin.

"This comet may not put on a great show. Just as certainly, it will not cause any disruptions here on Earth. But there is a cause to marvel," said Yeomans. "This intrepid little traveler will offer astronomers a chance to study a relatively young comet that came here from well beyond our solar system's planetary region. After a short while, it will be headed back out again, and we will not see or hear from Elenin for thousands of years. That's pretty cool."

NASA detects, tracks and characterizes asteroids and comets passing relatively close to Earth using both ground- and space-based telescopes. The Near-Earth Object Observations Program, commonly called "Spaceguard," discovers these objects, characterizes a subset of them, and predicts their paths to determine if any could be potentially hazardous to our planet.

JPL manages the Near-Earth Object Program Office for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington, DC. JPL is a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-135

If the earth is wiped out by this comet I'll pay everybody in this thread £100. If it isn't they can all pay me £10 - what do you think?

[Red Raven]

And there's this http://www.disclose.tv/frameset.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fendgametime.wordpress.com%2Fcomet-elenin-let-their-be-light%2F

Thats even more bonkers than the last so called evidence. What the hell as the design money got to do with it.

Its complete and utter nonsense.

[Pennine Ten Foot Drifts]

What the hell as the design money got to do with it.

Apparently that is a 'coded warning to the Illuminati' !!! Even if the rest of the article was remotely credible, (which of course it isn't), that bit alone renders it worse than codswallop. The most depressing thing about this, and any sites/blogs like this, is that there is obviously a minority of people who take this total garbage seriously...............

[Coast]

As the comments I quoted above, a comet is a big, loose collection of ice and dirt:

Comet nuclei are known to range from about 100 meters to more than 40 kilometres across. They are composed of rock, dust, water ice, and frozen gases such as carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, methane and ammonia. Because of their low mass, comet nuclei do not become spherical under their own gravity, and thus have irregular shapes. Officially, according to NASA guidelines, a comet has to be at least 85% ice in order to be considered an actual comet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet

If a comet managed to get near enough to Earth it would break up and melt in our atmosphere - in the really mega-unlikely event anything got through, it would be like a large Slush Puppy slapping you in the face.

[Backtrack]

Reading this thread makes me feel sick with worry.

Why don't people stop posting SENSELESS GARBAGE and read from a credible source

[Backtrack]

Oh look. A credible, OFFICIAL source:

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/comet20110504.html

Stop scaremongering, Yamkin.

[Jane Louise]

It'll be fine.... scare mongering just doesn't scare me anymore lol. By the way has nobody noticed the 2 suns in the sky lately??