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  • Location: Barnsley 125asl
  • Location: Barnsley 125asl

Where has this appeared from on the latest NAE for tomorrow morning?

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Looks interesting for Pennine areas ahead of the main 'event' tomorrow night?

Didnt see this! oooooo looks promising

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Ha, Calm down, it was a joke mate, taking the mick out of the moron zombies doing as their tv tells them.

i've been sledging and enjoying the snow taking pics, not to a sodding supermarket.

Good job.

I'm on the cider sorry mate.

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  • Location: Penistone. S Yorks. Foothills of the southern Pennines. 238m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall. Deep Cold. Clear Crisp Ice Days.
  • Location: Penistone. S Yorks. Foothills of the southern Pennines. 238m ASL

Where has this appeared from on the latest NAE for tomorrow morning?

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Looks interesting for Pennine areas ahead of the main 'event' tomorrow night?

METO have heavy snow for Penistone at 6am and 9am in the morning. Interesting indeed.

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  • Location: Penistone. S Yorks. Foothills of the southern Pennines. 238m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall. Deep Cold. Clear Crisp Ice Days.
  • Location: Penistone. S Yorks. Foothills of the southern Pennines. 238m ASL

Good job.

I'm on the cider sorry mate.

No worries mate, good to know someone dislikes panic buyers as much as myself. Enjoy your cider drinks.gif

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

If you look at the first chart you'll see a small green patch with 0 on it in the middle of all the blue. That must be where Adamlufc lives.

Nah that's the famous Sheffield shield. Kills storms and showers and normally all snow dead. Drizzle distant lightening the odd large flake of snow allowed. However this did break down in 2007/2010 but since has been repaired turning 30cm of snow into 3mm. So far the shield hasn't been perfected. If it's windy this still gets through. At the moment the fix for this isn't priority I hear so I can expect the odd gale for the next few years. I have a team trying to find the location of the shield and if you seen a mushroom cloud followed by headline news of Sheffield has had it's biggest T storm ever you know I've found it.

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  • Location: Scarborough, North Yorkshire - 68m ASL
  • Location: Scarborough, North Yorkshire - 68m ASL

Latest BBC forecast looks good for tomorrow night. Showed snow even on the coast. This ties in with the MO website forecast which shows heavy snow through the night before turning to sleet.

I'd be happy with one more decent dumping before it turns to rain!

Them showers didn't amount to much. Not sure about the next lot lurking out to sea. Again the meto's site forecast shows heavy snow showers for us from midnight and their radar backs this up.

They're going to have to intensify a bit first though!

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  • Location: Altofts
  • Weather Preferences: Cold.
  • Location: Altofts

Could do with a top up here NW Sheff. It's been on and off with light glitteraty snow but nothing meaningful. Then again I did wake up to ~3inches of snow on the roof of my car. I'm just greedy and want what is meant to be coming across from the east to stop just in front of the pennines and dump a load of snow on me. :D

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  • Location: Penistone. S Yorks. Foothills of the southern Pennines. 238m ASL
  • Weather Preferences: Heavy disruptive snowfall. Deep Cold. Clear Crisp Ice Days.
  • Location: Penistone. S Yorks. Foothills of the southern Pennines. 238m ASL

Nah that's the famous Sheffield shield. Kills storms and showers and normally all snow dead. Drizzle distant lightening the odd large flake of snow allowed. However this did break down in 2007/2010 but since has been repaired turning 30cm of snow into 3mm. So far the shield hasn't been perfected. If it's windy this still gets through. At the moment the fix for this isn't priority I hear so I can expect the odd gale for the next few years. I have a team trying to find the location of the shield and if you seen a mushroom cloud followed by headline news of Sheffield has had it's biggest T storm ever you know I've found it.

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  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything but mild south-westeries in winter
  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl

If we get around 14cm or so of snow (rough translation from mm), on top of the snow we have now, then we'd have more than 20cm of accumulated snow. That would be approaching December 2010 and January 2010.

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  • Location: North lincs
  • Weather Preferences: Seasonal weather but love snow
  • Location: North lincs

Where is expected to get 14cm out of interest. Thought we are looking at amounts between 2-6cm ?!

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  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything but mild south-westeries in winter
  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl

Where is expected up get 14cm?

Nowhere is forecast to, just a quick translation from NAE PPN totals.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Nowhere is forecast to, just a quick translation from NAE PPN totals.

All depends on the water content of the snow if it's dry snow the translation works very well as it has done this week. Dry snow tends to fall below zero as long as there's no intervening layers of warm air wet snow above zero. So it's quite possible to have an inch of rain and an inch of snow while with dry snow the depth would be a foot.

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  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything but mild south-westeries in winter
  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl

All depends on the water content of the snow if it's dry snow the translation works very well as it has done this week. Dry snow tends to fall below zero as long as there's no intervening layers of warm air wet snow above zero. So it's quite possible to have an inch of rain and an inch of snow while with dry snow the depth would be a foot.

Yup, you're right. If it's dry then 14mm could be more like 19cm, not common in the UK.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Yup, you're right. If it's dry then 14mm could be more like 19cm, not common in the UK.

I'm too micturated too work out the correct conversion. Best rule of thumb is the higher the temp the less the final depth.

Inversely the larger pile of snow you can make is with higher temps.

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  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet
  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet

To be honest i feared that tommorow nights event would not be much better than a repeat of yesterday (i.e weak inland) however current NAE predictions (which have done extremely well) do suggest that i will be very pleased.

Will be visiting parents tommorow so taking a measurement.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Well if it takes 4 weeks to get to a foot of snow it will be one weirdest cold spells we ever had.

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  • Location: South Yorkshire Barnsley 66m ASL
  • Location: South Yorkshire Barnsley 66m ASL

18z GFS is epic in terms of cold lasting right through to next saturday with another reload from the north east. SURELY this can't happen?

We would have snow on the ground for nearly 2 weeks if this keeps trending this way!

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  • Location: Manchester City center/ Leeds Bradfor Airport 200m
  • Location: Manchester City center/ Leeds Bradfor Airport 200m

We are normally used to having one big fall followed by sporadic lighter falls. This spell unusually has had several small falls that keep topping up the snow depth.

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Now if we had the minus -20c the mail were suggesting. Okay maybe not and no more snow what we got could evaporate away.

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  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet
  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet

Well if it takes 4 weeks to get to a foot of snow it will be one weirdest cold spells we ever had.

Being fair it took 19 days in winter 2010 to reach 29cm (and 21cm of that fell in one day).

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  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl
  • Weather Preferences: Anything but mild south-westeries in winter
  • Location: Whitkirk, Leeds 86m asl

Nov/Dec 2010 was also a gradual build up here, with multiple snowfalls all piling up until the 'big one' on the 1 December, 5+ inches widely in West Yorkshire I'd guess. The only day that I recall seeing Leeds in absolute chaos due to snowfall with every form of transport halted or delayed. LBA only closed for a very short period of time though (relatively speaking), despite getting a foot of snow - Heathrow, take note. nea.gif

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  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield
  • Weather Preferences: Any Extreme
  • Location: Sheffield South Yorkshire 160M Powering the Sheffield Shield

Being fair it took 19 days in winter 2010 to reach 29cm (and 21cm of that fell in one day).

Took us one day. 35cm on 1st Dec 40cm by the 2nd........... Remember Winter is Dec Jan Feb.....

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  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet
  • Location: Leeds/Bradford border, 185 metres above sea level, around 600 feet

Nov/Dec 2010 was also a gradual build up here, with multiple snowfalls all piling up until the 'big one' on the 1 December, 5+ inches widely in West Yorkshire I'd guess. The only day that I recall seeing Leeds in absolute chaos due to snowfall with every form of transport halted or delayed.

That one was actually much more even in that it took 6 days to reach 23cm here but included a 9cm and the 11cm snowfall on the 2nd (i think it was the second and not the first).

Took us one day. 35cm on 1st Dec 40cm by the 2nd...........

Winter 2010 means Dec 09/Jan 10.

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