Summer 2014 thread

[cheeky_monkey]

weather doesn't get better than this.. csytal clear skies of blue.. light winds and  a  top temperature of around  70f.. If only our climate was like this all year round 

Move to the eastern suburbs of San Francisco you will find what you seek. 

[Yarmy]

weather doesn't get better than this.. csytal clear skies of blue.. light winds and  a  top temperature of around  70f.. If only our climate was like this all year round 

 

Wouldn't be a lot to talk about on here, to be honest.

[TonyH]

Summery today, very warm sunny, 22c and rising!

[laserguy]

Wouldn't be a lot to talk about on here, to be honest.

 

Yup - what we have now is a total lack of weather. It's horrible.

[Snowy L]

Wouldn't be a lot to talk about on here, to be honest.

That's because people would be free to go outside and do things without fear of freezing/getting wet/ having a branch fly into you.

[laserguy]

That's because people would be free to go outside and do things without fear of freezing/getting wet/ having a branch fly into you.

 

How come they're not doing that right now, instead of messing around on here gushing how 'nice' it is?

[Snowy L]

How come they're not doing that right now, instead of messing around on here gushing how 'nice' it is?

 

Who say's they're not outside with a laptop enabling them to go online while enjoying the outdoors?

 

Seriously what is it with this site and having some sort of weather class system. Are people seriously being looked down on for having the audacity to enjoy sunny weather?

[matty007]

Very pleasant day today, though despite being out in shorts and tee shirt all afternoon I haven't caught the sun one bit! Temperature falling like a stone now.

 

That's because that while the sun is shining and it's fairly warm, the UV levels are much lower than they would be in July. July UV level is typically 7-8 whereas now it's around 4.

 

It's the UV levels that gives you a tan, not the sunshine itself or the warmth.

This is very nice weather though I must say. What's marevlous about it is the very low wind. Yesterday and today I've only recoorded a wind speed of 3mph. That makes it feel much warmer than it is, I've known much cooler July days than this due to the high wind.

 

Even though I'm a heat lover, I'd be quite happy with weather like this all year round. Very comftable.

Edited September 10, 2014 by matty007

[March Blizzard]

In regards to the perception of when seasons start/finish, I think the fact that there are two different dates commonly used reflects that there is a "transition period within another transition period", if you like. If you take September 1st as the start of Autumn, you could point to the trees turning and dropping leaves, and the lower sun in the sky at midday as reasons for your decision, however others may point to summer like temperatures and the fact that most trees are still largely green as reason enough to declare it as late summer. I guess the period 1-20 September retains enough summer like qualities to pass as late summer yet also possesses enough autumnal qualities to justify it as early autumn. You could make a similar argument regarding late winter/early spring during the period 1-20 March, though using different examples as justification.

 

I work outdoors and I must admit that despite the warmth, I can't ignore the lower sun, longer shadows and the fallen leaves around my feet. The strength of the sun,in particular, seems much weaker now. My immediate perception is more "Autumn" than "Summer".

Edited September 10, 2014 by March Blizzard

[cheese]

How come they're not doing that right now, instead of messing around on here gushing how 'nice' it is?

Most people who enjoy an active social life are. Those who are reclusive and choose to abstain from human interaction are not.

Edited September 10, 2014 by cheese

[matty007]

In regards to the perception of when seasons start/finish, I think the fact that there are two different dates commonly used reflects that there is a "transition period within another transition period", if you like. If you take September 1st as the start of Autumn, you could point to the trees turning and dropping leaves, and the lower sun in the sky at midday as reasons for your decision, however others may point to summer like temperatures and the fact that most trees are still largely green as reason enough to declare it as late summer. I guess the period 1-20 September retains enough summer like qualities to pass as late summer yet also possesses enough autumnal qualities to justify it as early autumn. You could make a similar argument regarding late winter/early spring during the period 1-20 March, though using different examples as justification.

 

I work outdoors and I must admit that despite the warmth, I can't ignore the lower sun, longer shadows and the fallen leaves around my feet. The strength of the sun,in particular, seems much weaker now. My immediate perception is more "Autumn" than "Summer".

 

 

To be honsest, I just go by experience. Very rarely have I known Autumnal weather in September. Not just in regards to tempreture, but to rainfall, wind and storms too. Yes the sun is setting much earlier but it is still usably light at 8PM just about which is still very decent. September is much more like Summer to me than August is.

 

To me people are too specific at saying as soon as we get into September, we're in Autumn. The weather to me dictastes the season. September 1st is just a date used by weather persons and the like to mark the start of a new season because Summer has to end at some point. It shouldn't be taken so seriously though. You obviosuly have to use common sense though. A warm spell in October such as in 2011 is obviosuly a warm spell in Autumn rather than Summer. But a warm spell in September, especially when occuring in late August too, I would just call a continuation of Summer.

 

And typically you wouldn't notice leaves falling at this time of year, it has happened much earlier this year due to the mild Winter and Spring. The leaves usually aren't noticabbly falling until October.

How come they're not doing that right now, instead of messing around on here gushing how 'nice' it is?

 

There's a little thing known as a mobile phone you know. I'm out in the Sun right now, and I also haven't been on Netweather during this nice spell apart from now.

Edited September 10, 2014 by matty007

[MP-R]

To be honsest, I just go by experience. Very rarely have I known Autumnal weather in September. Not just in regards to tempreture, but to rainfall, wind and storms too. Yes the sun is setting much earlier but it is still usably light at 8PM just about which is still very decent. September is much more like Summer to me than August is.

 

To me people are too specific at saying as soon as we get into September, we're in Autumn. The weather to me dictastes the season. September 1st is just a date used by weather persons and the like to mark the start of a new season because Summer has to end at some point. It shouldn't be taken so seriously though. You obviosuly have to use common sense though. A warm spell in October such as in 2011 is obviosuly a warm spell in Autumn rather than Summer. But a warm spell in September, especially when occuring in late August too, I would just call a continuation of Summer.

 

And typically you wouldn't notice leaves falling at this time of year, it has happened much earlier this year due to the mild Winter and Spring. The leaves usually aren't noticabbly falling until October.

 

There's a little thing known as a mobile phone you know. I'm out in the Sun right now, and I also haven't been on Netweather during this nice spell apart from now.

 

What you've said is understood but if we stuck by that logic then the seasons would start, stop, come and go as they please. It's just useful splitting the seasons into 4, 3 months each. August will go down as experiencing a lot of autumnal weather in a summer month and September will go down has having at least a summery first half. Doesn't make September a summer month though. The 2011 heatwave went down as an exceptionally warm/hot spell in autumn.

 

People can believe what they like but September is an autumn month. In the same way that daffodils come out in March (sometimes late February), the leaves start turning in September (this year in late August). The former is a springlike event and the latter an autumnal one. Just because each season proper doesn't kick in until midmonth doesn't exempt them from being a spring or autumn month respectively. September 2003 had summerlike tendencies and March 2013 had winterlike tendencies but the former is a warm autumn month and the latter a cold spring month.

 

I really can't see why it's so difficult to accept that September is an autumn month. It's already been pointed out that the weather is an irrelevance sometimes.

[cheese]

I really can't see why it's so difficult to accept that September is an autumn month. It's already been pointed out that the weather is an irrelevance sometimes.

Nobody is denying that September is an autumn month - what people are arguing is that weather doesn't follow meteorological seasons. A switch isn't flicked on 1 September or 1 March. As far as I'm concerned, September is more summer with autumnal tendencies, and March is more winter with spring tendencies. March is still a cold month with frequent frosts and the potential for snow, which quickly fade away by April - likewise September is a warm month, more akin to June than October by a considerable margin, with temps frequently in the high teens, low twenties and even higher - with the record September temperature being 35.6C - exactly equal to June, but considerably higher than October. Likewise, the record low of -22.8C in March is far lower than the -15C recorded in Aprill - and almost equal to November's -23.3C.

 

As I keep on saying here, September and March do not firmly belong to summer or autumn - they are transition months. September heralds a trend for cooler mornings, weaker sun and a few leaves changing - but it isn't firmly autumn yet.

Edited September 10, 2014 by cheese

[Milhouse]

Lovely settled often summerlike conditions at the moment. Its very pleasant weather for doing things outdoors and walking round as if if were still summer. In my opinion the real Autumn depressions and gales can come when the trees have lost their leaves. Thats when i start to appreciate the full force of the Atlantic. i.e late October.

[Polar Maritime]

Yes lovely Summery conditions here for the past couple of days, The nights are dropping much cooler now.

[MP-R]

That's because that while the sun is shining and it's fairly warm, the UV levels are much lower than they would be in July. July UV level is typically 7-8 whereas now it's around 4.

 

It's the UV levels that gives you a tan, not the sunshine itself or the warmth.

 

 

That is correct. 

[Captain Shortwave]

Yes lovely Summery conditions here for the past couple of days, The nights are dropping much cooler now.

It has been very pleasant, to me it feels Autumnal despite the warmth, it is pretty common to get temperatures in the low 20s even into the second half of October. Nothing spectacular, get pleasantly warm during the day and fairly cool at night.

[laserguy]

Seriously what is it with this site and having some sort of weather class system. Are people seriously being looked down on for having the audacity to enjoy sunny weather?

 

Actually, yes - I find it tends to bring out all the riff-raff. Better off indoors, unless you're one of 'em.

Most people who enjoy an active social life are. Those who are reclusive and choose to abstain from human interaction are not.

 

How dare you? I choose to socialise indoors with people I invite or am invited to. How the hell does disliking summer and its attendant misery make one 'unsocial'?

[cheese]

Actually, yes - I find it tends to bring out all the riff-raff. Better off indoors, unless you're one of 'em.

 

How dare you? I choose to socialise indoors with people I invite or am invited to. How the hell does disliking summer and its attendant misery make one 'unsocial'?

Aw, diddums - did my words offend your feelings?

[cheese]

Knock it off. Everyone has a different weather preference and people react to different weather types in different ways. That doesn't make someone "reclusive" just because they don't like what you like.

I am responding in a way that he is accustomed to - so tough. Can give it but can't take it.

Edited September 10, 2014 by cheese

[Polar Maritime]

Can we please cut the tit for tat, point scoring/nit picking and who's going to say the last word post's and stick to topic discussion once and for all. There's been enough warnings in here, Which continue to fall on deaf ears to the small minority spoiling the thread.

 

Many Thanks, P.M

Edited September 10, 2014 by Polar Maritime

[feb1991blizzard]

you cheeky sod, not sure if my dad was even born on that date!

 

Sorry John, I was wanting to use that cheek for a long time but couldn't think of how to drop it in, trying to lighten the mood as this thread has become an argument thread, people talk of winter being an argumentative time but if I had been arguing in winter like some in here are, I would have had a ban!!

[johnholmes]

Sorry John, I was wanting to use that cheek for a long time but couldn't think of how to drop it in, trying to lighten the mood as this thread has become an argument thread, people talk of winter being an argumentative time but if I had been arguing in winter like some in here are, I would have had a ban!!

 

no problem mate, I agree and as PM has asked for gawds sake stop playing point scoring some of you, learn to live and let live!

[TonyH]

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Knock it off. Everyone has a different weather preference and people react to different weather types in different ways. That doesn't make someone "reclusive" just because they don't like what you like.

Edited September 11, 2014 by TonyH

[laserguy]

Well summer 2014 turned out to be pretty stormy - in here at least. Today looks like being another totally misplaced one, frustrating like reading the final chapter of a book in which the author delays the conclusion even tho' you know what's coming. All the elderberries from my garden are now wine, my hops are safely harvested and in storage and the lemon tree has taken up its winter residence indoors. Despite my profound colour blindness even I could see the change in the trees when taking the kid to school this morning. I'm satsified that it's all over, after what seems like an eternity. A sunny, mild day in itself does not make it 'summer',  however disagreeable it may be - all the other ingredients which make it such have long fallen by the wayside... mushy knows what I'm on about!