Model Moans, Ramps and Banter

[Ice Man 85]

6 minutes ago, Captain Shortwave said:

It won't verify, that run pretty much is a case of everything going right (or wrong during week 2). It is just outrageous and to put it bluntly that set up would probably give the best chance in our history of hitting 40C. That's pushing it even for the hardiest of summer lovers. 

Oh today has been lovely, 26C and sunny all day. 

There's been a few newspaper articles with whispers of something like that though. Still I hope to god you're right C.S. Never thought I'd see myself saying that this time of year.

[markyo]

57 minutes ago, Ice Man 85 said:

Damn the GFS! Look at the tail end of next week . I need to lie down. For the love of god why can't the weather stay like it is today?

I just died inside.

It won't come anywhere near that. Look at it like this,the misery will soon be over,just hang on in there,be brave!

[Ice Man 85]

27 minutes ago, markyo said:

It won't come anywhere near that. Look at it like this,the misery will soon be over,just hang on in there,be brave!

There's some support for it on the GEFS. The Control agrees with the OP run. If the ECM even comes close to backing it, we're in for hell on earth with those temps.

[markyo]

1 minute ago, Ice Man 85 said:

There's some support for it on the GEFS. The Control agrees with the OP run. If the ECM even comes close to backing it, we're in for hell on earth with those temps.

It won't trust me.

[Ice Man 85]

Just now, markyo said:

It won't trust me.

The trouble is, the ECM stops on T240, which is just before the GFS goes into meltdown.

[markyo]

19 minutes ago, Ice Man 85 said:

The trouble is, the ECM stops on T240, which is just before the GFS goes into meltdown.

To far out,don't worry!

[Ice Man 85]

Sums me up right now...

[stainesbloke]

4 hours ago, Ice Man 85 said:

Damn the GFS! Look at the tail end of next week . I need to lie down. For the love of god why can't the weather stay like it is today?

I just died inside.

Do calm down, dear. I can feel your blood pressure rising from here. Have you ever thought about amateur dramatics?

On a more serious note, you'll be pleased to know that GFS is pretty much out there on its own, it is extremely unlikely to verify. Though I'm praying that GFS is right for this weekend, will be a lovely weekend camping rather than the vile miserable filth the UKMO is showing, ugh.

[draztik]

GFS 18z will be a very different run, quite apparent early on.

 

*edit, or possibly not lol

Edited July 17, 2017 by draztik

[Ice Man 85]

6 minutes ago, stainesbloke said:

Do calm down, dear. I can feel your blood pressure rising from here. Have you ever thought about amateur dramatics?

On a more serious note, you'll be pleased to know that GFS is pretty much out there on its own, it is extremely unlikely to verify. Though I'm praying that GFS is right for this weekend, will be a lovely weekend camping rather than the vile miserable filth the UKMO is showing, ugh.

You may not believe this, but I don't want the filth of either extreme. I thought today's conditions and temps were lovely. If that would continue until september, then I would have thought everyone would be happy. Still going from the more extreme heat lovers, nothing short of boiling is enough.

Edited July 17, 2017 by Ice Man 85
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[stainesbloke]

7 minutes ago, Ice Man 85 said:

You may not believe this, but I don't want the filth of either extreme. I thought today's conditions were lovely. If that would continue until september, then I would have thought everyone would be happy. Still going from the more extreme heat lovers, nothing short of boiling is enough.

I do believe you and have to agree with you. Today here reached 27C with light winds and plenty of sunshine, those are absolutely perfect summer conditions in my humble opinion. Am certainly not hoping for 40C! I know it's very interesting on a synoptic level but unless one has a swimming pool and air conditioning, probably not too pleasant. Just no vile troughs hanging around for weeks at this time of the year, anything but.

Edited July 17, 2017 by stainesbloke

[Ice Man 85]

1 minute ago, stainesbloke said:

unless one has a swimming pool and air conditioning, probably not too pleasant.

Thats an understatement! Still the weatheroutlook's Brian Gaze apparently can sleep in Death Valley with no air con. Sometimes I wonder if that guy is human.

[stainesbloke]

Just now, Ice Man 85 said:

Thats an understatement! Still the weatheroutlook's Brian Gaze apparently can sleep in Death Valley with no air con. Sometimes I wonder if that guy is human.

The human body does build up a tolerance to heat and cold quite quickly. I've worked a lot out to places like Singapore and Bangkok (30's C and 90% humidity), also Montreal and Toronto (freezing in winter, worst I experienced was -32C). Once you've been in those conditions a day or two, you do start getting used to it. I prefer the heat but wouldn't want it all the time.

[Ice Man 85]

Just now, stainesbloke said:

The human body does build up a tolerance to heat and cold quite quickly. I've worked a lot out to places like Singapore and Bangkok (30's C and 90% humidity), also Montreal and Toronto (freezing in winter, worst I experienced was -32C). Once you've been in those conditions a day or two, you do start getting used to it. I prefer the heat but wouldn't want it all the time.

I know PE teachers can wear shorts in the peak of winter. So maybe you have a point.

[davehsug]

3 minutes ago, stainesbloke said:

The human body does build up a tolerance to heat and cold quite quickly. I've worked a lot out to places like Singapore and Bangkok (30's C and 90% humidity), also Montreal and Toronto (freezing in winter, worst I experienced was -32C). Once you've been in those conditions a day or two, you do start getting used to it. I prefer the heat but wouldn't want it all the time.

As a veteran of 1975 & 76 I can confirm that. Endless weeks of temperatures bouncing around between 25 & 32. You just get used to it. The first week or so is awkward, but after that it just becomes normal, you can even sleep & nobody had a fan then either!

[draztik]

37 minutes ago, draztik said:

GFS 18z will be a very different run, quite apparent early on.

 

*edit, or possibly not lol

as it turns out, the 12z GFS heatwave has gone awol.

 

[cheeky_monkey]

27 minutes ago, stainesbloke said:

The human body does build up a tolerance to heat and cold quite quickly. I've worked a lot out to places like Singapore and Bangkok (30's C and 90% humidity), also Montreal and Toronto (freezing in winter, worst I experienced was -32C). Once you've been in those conditions a day or two, you do start getting used to it. I prefer the heat but wouldn't want it all the time.

Interestingly ethnicity has been proven to play a role in tolerances to heat and cold... people of European decent have a much higher genetic tolerance to cold than those from say the Indian sub continent and Africa and vice versa when it comes to heat...maybe thats why a lot of people on here moan about it being too hot but not so much about being too cold.

Edited July 17, 2017 by cheeky_monkey

[stainesbloke]

3 minutes ago, draztik said:

as it turns out, the 12z GFS heatwave has gone awol.

 

As expected. Joyous chilly troughs to look forward to at the start of holiday season, yay.

[stainesbloke]

2 minutes ago, cheeky_monkey said:

Interestingly ethnicity has been proven to play a role in tolerances to heat and cold... people of European decent have a much higher genetic tolerance to cold than those from say the Indian sub continent and Africa and vice versa when it comes to heat...maybe thats why a lot of people in the on here moan about it being too hot but not so much about being too cold.

Makes a lot of sense. 

[mushymanrob]

8 hours ago, davehsug said:

As a veteran of 1975 & 76 I can confirm that. Endless weeks of temperatures bouncing around between 25 & 32. You just get used to it. The first week or so is awkward, but after that it just becomes normal, you can even sleep & nobody had a fan then either!

exactly!...... well said!

[knocker]

7 hours ago, cheeky_monkey said:

Interestingly ethnicity has been proven to play a role in tolerances to heat and cold... people of European decent have a much higher genetic tolerance to cold than those from say the Indian sub continent and Africa and vice versa when it comes to heat...maybe thats why a lot of people on here moan about it being too hot but not so much about being too cold.

Many of them weren't around in 62-63

[markyo]

5 minutes ago, mushymanrob said:

exactly!...... well said!

Yep,agree,same thing happens in a cold winter,first few days folk feel it then it becomes norm.

[knocker]

12 minutes ago, markyo said:

Yep,agree,same thing happens in a cold winter,first few days folk feel it then it becomes norm.

In my experience that's is not correct

Edited July 18, 2017 by knocker

[markyo]

13 minutes ago, knocker said:

In my experience that's is not correct

I find it is,that first moaning soon dies down,but as usual it depends on how the individual deals with it. We are all different!

[knocker]

Just now, markyo said:

I find it is,that first moaning soon dies down,but as usual it depends on how the individual deals with it. We are all different!

Well one of the many notable things of the winter of 62-63 was it's longevity, and in general terms people did not deal with it. It caused many problems and not a little distress particularly with the elderly. I was young at the time and I struggled. And it devastated many animal species.