North West Regional Discussion 30 December 2020 onwards

[severe snowstorm]

11 minutes ago, Spah1 said:

Next interest Tuesday???

That trough will also tie in with colder uppers forecast by Tuesday so should mean good chance of snow to most levels if it comes to fruition. The problem today is that slightly warmer air is in place which is resulting in rain showers to lower levels.

[damianslaw]

7 hours ago, Chris.R said:

I seem to remember once he said he was in the Lake District somewhere Ambleside I think.

If that's true then it's a false statement. Much of central lakes received over 3 inches 28 Feb 2018. Also last Feb. Admittedly last time we had more than that was late Jan 2013 about 8 inches. We've had many light covers 2-5 cms in recent years. 

[Weather-history]

-1.9C here

Good portions of the region have at least got something out of this current set-up than the disaster of that mid February set-up last year. 

On the face of it, that chart looks favourable for our region but it delivered next to nothing. Has anyone figured out why hardly any showers developed over the Irish sea? Really strange.

Edited January 3, 2021 by Weather-history

[I remember Atlantic 252]

6 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

-1.9C here

Good portions of the region have at least got something out of this current set-up than the disaster of that mid February set-up last year. 

On the face of it, that chart looks favourable for our region but it delivered next to nothing. Has anyone figured out why hardly any showers developed over the Irish sea? Really strange.

got decent snow event the day before that, transient, but my only snaw

 

Edited January 3, 2021 by I remember Atlantic 252

[More Runs Needed]

5 minutes ago, Weather-history said:

-1.9C here

Good portions of the region have at least got something out of this current set-up than the disaster of that mid February set-up last year. 

On the face of it, that chart looks favourable for our region but it delivered next to nothing. Has anyone figured out why hardly any showers developed over the Irish sea? Really strange.

Yes, I remember matt Hugo being adamant conditions were perfect for many showers and then... Nothing

[WillinGlossop]

Light snow shower large flakes... 1c 

[Backtrack]

0.1C, a hard frost. 
Is anyone getting any snow flurries? The sky is really dark, surely will be getting a few flakes soon. 

[I remember Atlantic 252]

Just now, Backtrack said:

0.1C, a hard frost. 
Is anyone getting any snow flurries? The sky is really dark, surely will be getting a few flakes soon. 

only Will at 300m?

[WillinGlossop]

1 minute ago, I remember Atlantic 252 said:

only Will at 300m?

Literally 5 minute light snow... thought it was falling off trees in breeze but was largish flakes but light... 

[Rush2019]

3 minutes ago, Backtrack said:

0.1C, a hard frost. 
Is anyone getting any snow flurries? The sky is really dark, surely will be getting a few flakes soon. 

Patches of cloud here with blue sky visible. Most of yesterdays snow thawed during the night but surrounding hills are still white over. 2c at the moment, quite a bright pleasant morning.

[James M]

8 minutes ago, Backtrack said:

0.1C, a hard frost. 
Is anyone getting any snow flurries? The sky is really dark, surely will be getting a few flakes soon. 

Sleet and rain here showers here, 1.6C

[Backtrack]

5 minutes ago, Rush2112 said:

Patches of cloud here with blue sky visible. Most of yesterdays snow thawed during the night but surrounding hills are still white over. 2c at the moment, quite a bright pleasant morning.

Yep, there’s milder air over us now which will explain a slight thaw during the night. Dew points east of Warrington are above freezing widely, which will also tie in to a thaw. Such a shame isn’t it. 

Chart below shows the 850’s for right now 

Edited January 3, 2021 by Backtrack

[Backtrack]

2 minutes ago, James M said:

Sleet and rain here showers here, 1.6C

Seems the cloud left over from the showers in the east did the east of our region no favours last night. Everywhere frozen solid here in the W of the region, clearly the cloud couldn’t even reach here, never mind the showers, lol. 

[itsnowjoke]

Losing my snow cover here need some more to plump my snowman back up 

[James M]

2 minutes ago, Backtrack said:

Seems the cloud left over from the showers in the east did the east of our region no favours last night. Everywhere frozen solid here in the W of the region, clearly the cloud couldn’t even reach here, never mind the showers, lol. 

Yeah the snow has been melting even up to 350m

[Backtrack]

5 minutes ago, James M said:

Yeah the snow has been melting even up to 350m

That’s crazy. Just something you wouldn’t expect in this setup. I wanted to plan a trip to Snowdonia. But obviously that’s not allowed. I’ve been checking the forecast for the national park every day, and they haven’t been above freezing for over a week. Would of been an amazing time to photograph icicles, frozen waterfalls and go for an amazingly snowy walk to the lake half way up. 
 

Obviously, Covid (and mark drakeford) say no

[James M]

Looks to be a trough coming in from the east, may give something to high ground in the Pennine regions.

[WillinGlossop]

More constant drizzly snizzle but heavier bursts large snowflakes 1c lots of snow melt here... snowflakes again 

[Rain Lady]

No longer drowning in wet westerlies for a while?  NNE breeze.  Dry so far today.  Lovely warm sun.

[dodge]

Had some small bits of wintry dandruff floating through the air this morning, but more welcome sunshine than anything.  A little more organisation gathering just to the east but it doesn't feel as wintry today and will mostly likely be that sleet/rain mix.  Tues looks one for keeping aware of going off those fax charts.

Edited January 3, 2021 by dodge

[WillinGlossop]

If yellow returns survive over Pennines should have a heavier snow shower... looks snowy over the snake 

[itsnowjoke]

Suns out

[A Face like Thunder]

Yes, lovely sunny morning, long may it continue! 

[iand61]

Managed a brief bit of snow about 30 minutes ago as one of the showers managed to cross the vast countrynental  divide between here and Yorkshire but it was quickly followed by a few minutes of warm sunshine so as others have said, conditions today are not ideal for anywhere other than the highest tops.

[Rain Lady]

9 hours ago, Rain Lady said:

If anyone is interested in rain midst the snow ..... !

 

Here's the rain update summary for 2020 in SW Bowland, Lancs

Site at 550ft / 170m approx, about a mile from the summit of Parlick Pike.

It is a Met Office rainfall observers site in operation since Sept 1968.  Same manual rain gauge used throughout.  Collection daily at 9am GMT.

 

The 2020 rainfall total of 2009.6 mm (79.1 inches) was the highest annual amount recorded in the last 50 years. Beat the previous record of 1984.0 mm in 2012.

2020 was about 35% up on the current average, 1491.3 mm.

 

Two months were record breakers. February with 333.2 mm was about three times the average.  July was over twice the average.

There were long dry spells in April and May and few drier days in September, but otherwise the year was routinely wet and cloudy and difficult for farming and other outdoor work.

It's interesting that the wettest years have occurred 2000 onwards. The computer program detects an upward trend in the annual data. See chart.

 

I meant to add a summary snip of the record wet 2020 from the spreadsheet.  Figures in mm.  I kept the line showing the total rain since the start of 1969 !

 

Also the same data in chart form to the start of 2021. 

 

SW Bowland Chart 1968-2020 averages and 2020.pdf