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Model output discussion - Into 2021


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  • Location: caernarfon(gwynedd)
  • Location: caernarfon(gwynedd)
4 minutes ago, Scott Ingham said:

I genuinely think well be looking at systems trying to push in very sluggishly creating battleground snow before the cold wins out mid month

Like we said this morning before the met 

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  • Location: Coventry
  • Location: Coventry
8 minutes ago, Scott Ingham said:

I genuinely think well be looking at systems trying to push in very sluggishly creating battleground snow before the cold wins out mid month

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Cold pool a little further south at 60,may just be enough now for south east members 

Edit: Steve is too fast for me today haha

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  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
Just now, georgiedre said:

Like we said this morning before the met 

Yes mate. What the GFS modelled this morning makes zero sense. The ONLY thing backing up such a run is a push from 2-3-4 of the MJO

In my opinion out if the 3 things snowking posted its option 1.

The models not modelling the ssw and level of amp from the huge eamt event.

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  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
1 minute ago, Battleground Snow said:

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Cold pool a little further south at 60,may just be enough now for south east members 

 

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Fantastic upgrade on the 850s again!

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  • Location: Leicester
  • Location: Leicester
2 minutes ago, Battleground Snow said:

?‍♂️

Cold pool a little further south at 60,may just be enough now for south east members 

Edit: Steve is too fast for me today haha

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Aint gona complain as thats perfectly placed for me in the midlands!!

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  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
1 minute ago, Daniel* said:

The upgrades continue further SE with snow potential

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Its the first time ive seen monday upgrade mate. Before its been tuesday and wednesday 

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  • Location: Bournemouth
  • Weather Preferences: Dry mild or snow winter. Hot and humid summer.
  • Location: Bournemouth

The high is trying to go NW. Better than 06.

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  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and storms
  • Location: Hayward’s Heath - home, Brighton/East Grinstead - work.
1 hour ago, sebastiaan1973 said:

Well. In my opinion there is first an increase of westerlies in the lower parts of the Atmosphere. As shown in 144h.

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Lol. That’s nothing. Put it alongside the corresponding 12Z T+144 chart Trop ECM chart and you can understand why. Is this the increase in trop u wind that you are concerned about. Not me.

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I think most of us on here would take this if that is the most extreme in westerlies forecast.

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  • Location: Leicestershire (hinckley)
  • Location: Leicestershire (hinckley)
9 minutes ago, Tim Bland said:

BOOM! Really starting to pile up in the south by midweek. I hope they have put the army on Standby!!!!!!

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The lack of predicted snowfall doesn't seem to concern anyone so long as it's cold enough for snow lol

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  • Location: Purley, Surrey - 246 Ft ASL
  • Weather Preferences: January 1987 / July 2006
  • Location: Purley, Surrey - 246 Ft ASL
2 minutes ago, MKN said:

The lack of predicted snowfall doesn't seem to concern anyone so long as it's cold enough for snow lol

In all fairness when they show snow it never happens - feel there is more chance when they show nothing. 

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  • Location: Leicester
  • Location: Leicester

Remember what i said earlier about whether we are looking at the wrong place for height rises!!well lookk at the ukmo looks like its shifting heights to scandi now!!!

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  • Location: Near Gouda, Holland. 6m Below Sea Level.
  • Weather Preferences: Sun, snow, ice. Very hot or very cold.
  • Location: Near Gouda, Holland. 6m Below Sea Level.
Just now, That ECM said:

Always liked the gfs

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Notable differences in Northern Canada (stronger heights) and in Scandi/Northwest Russia/Nova Zembla (weaker heights).

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  • Location: Raynes Park, London SW20
  • Location: Raynes Park, London SW20
3 minutes ago, mountain shadow said:

T144 UKMO not great.

Ridge to Greenland collapsing.

It's still decent - quite similar to the ECM 0z run.

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  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
  • Location: Rotherham, East Dene
5 minutes ago, MKN said:

The lack of predicted snowfall doesn't seem to concern anyone so long as it's cold enough for snow lol

It cant model snowfall thats why i would onoy pay attention to hi res within 48 hours and thats too far out. Ive had 2 moderate snowfalls which have settled that wouldnt show on that chart. Trash can stuff unless the model is high enough resolution

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