chris78

Im not sure the temps and dps are good enough here, just had more sleety rain.

That red car just arrived from Buxton.

Because there are regional threads to do that in, it is fine if someone posts, model A has the track of feature B at location C, with a relevant chart, but thats not what we get is it, we get, people asking will it snow on my house, or why has my app downgraded my location, I think its largely because people are desperate, most of the posters asking about snow in their location, however the posts are dressed up are really saying, SOMEONE GIVE ME SOME HOPE ITS GOING TO SNOW ON MY HOUSE, I figure they think, as this is the busiest thread, this is the likeliest place that someone will deliver that reassurance.

Looks like the ecm mean is a correction north.

Of course ppl will be more interested in their own areas, but either keep that to the regional thread or state that a comment regress to a specific area. Too many comments yesterday said things like much better run, or, might in the right direction, when they clearly represented downgrades for many areas.

Genuine question, its very negative about next week in here, but in the Northern regional threads people seem fairly upbeat about snow chances, are all the folk in the regional thread deluded?

There is probably a better place to ask this but..... The idea that animals or plants can be indicators of the weather more than a few hours ahead.....I have never believed this, I just cant see what the mechanism would be to allow them to do it. Is there any bit of research or even a well reasoned explanation of what the mechanism might be. I know some people will say we dont understand everything and the mechanisms may be beyond our current understanding, but Im looking for a bit more than that if possible.

Sleety, icey mix here

Jesus Pip, that looks severe, I have friends in Chorley, I hope they are ok. Stay safe!

Feb, there is no point trying to argue what is the best for our region it is too diverse. For my location NW represents the best chance of snow, OK it will take a pretty special one to deliver snow that sticks around. So you can tell everyone all you like how rubbish they are for your area, but its meaningless to me.

Crazy isnt it March 8th 2018 Blackburn https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/16073164.snow-march-8-2018-updates-on-roads-trains-buses-and-school-closures/ Preston https://www.blogpreston.co.uk/2018/03/preston-awakes-to-dusting-of-snow-heres-hour-by-hour-weather-forecast/

Honestly Deep snow that 8 miles makes ALL the difference. We may have had a couple of CM's on bins and cars etc, but an even covering over all surfaces...NO.

Somebody in the Midlands thread just asked what is all the excitement about an event that might deliver a couple of cms. A COUPLE OF CMS IS A ONCE IN A GENERATION EVENT HERE ON THE WEST COAST.

But does distant memory mean the mouth watering charts are greeted as gospel and anyone who posts a cautionary post gets piled on by the mob? Maybe better if We do remember them?

Jar.

Shows you doesnt it, that was an epic once in a generation event and still only just enough snow to cover the laces on your boots. Plus my father in law thought that was the most snow he had ever seen in Preston, he is 85. (I have said this on here before and it may be that he is forgetting an event or two, but the broad point still stands) I think i am rightin saying 63 and 47 didnt deliver much in the way of snow for west coast of our region. Dont get be wrong Im not winging about 2010, I loved it.

This 100% I wouldnt complain with a nice bitter easterly, but a 2010 northerly is the holy grail for me. I expect to never see anything like that again, but will forever live in hope. Even that only delivered a couple of inches of snow here (maybe less?) but the depth of cold, the ice in the ribble, what an event that was.

Totally agree PW, the only thing I would say is, very few people were saying the same when people were going OTT about the runs yesterday, I fact the few people who were cautious yesterday got a fair bit of stick

Everything looks great...one thing in the back of mind though is...... didnt the ICON handle last winters SSW better than the other models, or is that an over blown claim?

Totally agree that if you live in the usual snow starved areas and you are expecting snow, its best to be cautious, better still to assume it wont snow. But to lump the whole NW in with that is way OTT. If I lived in the Peak District or east lancs or anywhere with elevation I think snow looks pretty likely. Plus, for me anyway a cold spell isnt all about snow, and the chances of some really cold minimums are there for all of us, I do appreciate that many on here arent weather enthusiasts, just snow lovers.

If its every year (is here to) I cant understand why it shocks you every time?

I have very little understanding of the charts, so I appreciate you pointing out what could go wrong, much better than everyone just ramping the charts and then it being a total shock when its not a repeat of 1947. I have no problem with people getting very exited about good charts, but that means people must also be allowed to be down about poor ones or even point out the odd flaw in otherwise good one. We could have a very boring 100% neutral thread, I dont thing ppl want that, but if we are going to give emotional reactions to charts, it must work both ways, far too many of you are more than happy to jump on the BOOM train, but immediately criticise caution.

Best way BC, if you live in one of those places that never gets snow, its best to assume it wont. Im still looking forward to/hoping for a good cold spell, maybe some icicles, ice days, really low minima, weekends going to find some snow. But as for snow on my house, next to no chance, there never is.

I very much agree with people in here and the model thread telling people not to be too negative when a run a shows a less favorable outcome....perfectly sensible advice....however, the same people advising caution with the bad runs, happily post ecstatic reactions to the favorable ones. So, before you tell someone that its only one run and advise them to stop being negative, think to yourself, do I ever get exited about good runs, if the answer is yes, shut up and dont be a hypocrite, if its ok for you to post, BOOM or EPIC about one run, its ok for other members to be negative about another.

Obviously subject to lots of change at 4 days out, and only one run, but it should give hope to most of the region, but im mainly posting it because of that little sliver on the fylde coast and ribble estuary that i know a few of us live in...GREEN AGAIN! EDIT Actually looking properly we do just make it!