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I know, i'm sorry mate but it could be a similiar situation could it not?
Are you talking about the end of Dec 2010?
NAE was pretty good for ppn position but GFS was better at ppn type
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The thickness levels look worrying for the west midlands. 530DAM
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At least for Brum and surrounding areas the extra height should help a bit. But I think rain eventually is inevitable.
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Looks like it's stalled over Wales/Irish sea atm. It's turning to snow on the eastern edge.
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There's nothing wrong with ambiguous, as when it comes to the model's there is not definitive answer right now (or indeed 90% of the time when you're talking 7-10 days +). Contradictory is also reasonable - it's a discussion, people will have different opinions.
Biased is not reasonable but it exists in many walks of life and the majority of open discussions, but if you're able to spot bias then you're equally able to filter it, and I'd recommend anyone who thinks a post is biased in one way or the other does just that.
As much as I'm all for this being an informative thread, this notion that it should be a one stop shop for readers to find the definitive view of the weather for the next 3 weeks isn't either possible, or the aim. It's a discussion thread, an active, lively, hopefully informative, and sometimes moderately insane one, but it is a discussion - nothing more, nothing less.
To my mind ALL models bring a chance of a cold snap in around a week's time which is an improvement on the last 3 weeks at least. For those looking for embedded cold lasting longer, you will be disappointed 90% of the time. The prevailing weather conditions rarely support such a system.
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One more smash at the PV through a warming event and that should tip us over the edge, the only thing that is drawing the 12z output back is that powerful piece of vortex around west Greenland
Off the charts
http://wekuw.met.fu-berlin.de/~Aktuell/strat-www/wdiag/figs/ecmwf1/temps.gif
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Anyway... GFS is showing strong run-to-run consistency (and general consistency throughout its runs), with a mainly westerly flow and HP anchored to our South.
3rd of Jan looks potentially pretty stormy with agreement between UKMO and GFS
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WeatherPro radar showing snow turning to sleet now...
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I've noticed every time Ian Brown posts in this thread that's going to be 6c and heavy rain, it ends up snowing in Stoke/north Staffs regardless of where it was forecast!!
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Meteogroup radar showing snow thru Cheshire gap predicted to turn to sleet any minute
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RainToday animation isn't working for me
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It was never meant to snow yet... it's just not cold enough.
Patience...
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The BBC are in a bit of pickle with this because it's clearly taking a different track than predicted...
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Hopefully Brum's relative high height should see them through... fingers crossed
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Even NAE 18z seems behind schedule though...
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On track, ahead of track? you decide
Great post - clearly ahead of schedule or further north...
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What are the chances for central Brum? I think we are far enough south and west?
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One thing's for sure, beyond this weekend the situation is really beginning to look desperate for the rest of Dec...
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I think we are definately headed for a period of milder weather from early next week onwards but it's far too early to say how long it's going to last.
The teleconnections were no better at the beginning of Dec, in fact they were probably worse, yet it hasn't really been mild at all.
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Good evening and welcome once again folks!
Last winter had an incredible start in December for the north east mids, the west mids profited mid-month before the disappointment of Jan and Feb.
I expect a generally slow start to winter tbh, although there is a chance of a stray shower tonight and in a few days
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Its too good. T180 is northerly gales and blizzards for some. Another OTT set up by GFS?
BFTP
Have you checked the uppers on that one?
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The two times I can remember a polar low occuring (one being very early last winter/late autumn - NOT 30th Nov) neither were picked up by the models before hand.
You have to watch sat24.com and keep an eye on it at the time
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I think it is also worth noting that just a few days ago NAO was forecasted to go negative. Models are struggling at the moment.
Yes, and also for a time early in the month as well.
People shouldn't take the NAO and AO forecasts as gospel, they have their own FI just like the other charts
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GFS showing awful consistency atm. The 6z is a cooler scenario with larger heights over Greenland and a slider low bringing in an easterly towards the end, before reverting to type...
The Midlands Regional Discussion - Part 2
in Spring Weather Discussion
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I don't know if we're talking about the same event here, but in late Dec 2010 the ppn came as rain! And I seem to recall the warning signs were there at least a day before that happening (Dew points too high etc).
I hope history does not repeat itself, but certainly the build up to this event is much cooler than at that time.