shuggee

The corridor of DOOM :lol:

It's already happened: http://forum.netweat...0entry1610670 Do keep up at the back. There's also a duplicate thread here: http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/57103-first-snow-of-winter-2009-2010/ Locking this :lol:

0ºC at the airport up here - coldest evening so far this season and the third air frost.

The likelihood of any acticity last night in the UK was zero. The Kp index was 0 or 1 (it needs to be 5 or 6 at least) and all other indicators showed very little activity indeed. Sure it wasn't the abattoir in Dalkeith Les?! Keep an eye on measurements of activity in this thread to inform your ventures out with camera: http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/14968-aurora-sun-activity-resources-thread/

Trains still not going any further north than Dundee this morning. Was told the line is knackered between Montrose and Stonehaven. And guess what - it's tipping it down again, which frankly is not going to help at all. All through Fife fields are flooded and the rivers are fast, brown and full to bursting...

From: http://www.metoffice...st_weather.html

Yes - it looks like that's the only positive outcome lol. Perhaps the new year will see it used more frequently....

Not had one of these emails for what seems like an eternity: A more active sun at last - hooray!

8.1ºC

...and back on topic.

It's just a bit of fun 10123 - was feeling mischievous this morning We've traditionally always had a SATSIGS (Sod All The Science It's Gonna Snow) thread, so just introducing one for this year's season

Introduction In order to help the team in busy periods we have devised a status threat monitor that represents the likelihood of 'winter froth' appearing on the forum. Winter frothing is defined as 'a predisposition to always post about the possibilities of cool or cold weather in the form of frost, sleet, snow and ice no matter how remote, how far into the future and more importantly, how unlikely' (from "Winter terms and definitions", 2009 'SATSIGS' publications, available by mail order from JML). In the same publication, Winter frothers are described as 'mostly harmless' and are entertaining to deal with in terms of objectivity and science. Threat levels There are five levels of threat: critical - a period of 'winter frothing' is expected imminently colour dark blue severe - a period of 'winter frothing' is highly likely colour light blue substantial - a period of 'winter frothing' is a strong possibility colour green moderate - a period of 'winter frothing' is possible but not likely colour orange low - a period of 'winter frothing' is unlikely colour red We hope the new system and the explanation above enhances your enjoyment of the forum over the coming months which appear to be quite exciting*. *This is what the book describes as an implied winter froth which more advanced students of the subject may have spotted.

:wacko: of course - it is possible to go lower!

Interesting that a few years ago Piers' repeatedly sensationalist opinions were reported in The Times, then in the last couple of years in the Daily Express and now in the Daily Star. I need say no more.

All that energy up into the atmosphere - shocking. Coal fired power stations from the 60s/70s are on average 30% efficient... You can trace the Aire and Trent Valleys from afar with such conditions as your shots Mr D - nice one.

A casual Thomasz predicting the coldest night of the week to be Monday into Tuesday (possibly 0ºC in say, Shrewsbury), sunny start, cloudy middle with talk of anti-cyclonic gloom, then more sunny again friday/next weekend. High pressure all the way.

I'd say a 1 in 7 chance badboy

11.0ºC

As Fred said - I predict it will read: "The indications are for a wetter than average winter across western Europe and the UK. Temperatures will be around average" Yes - I'm thinking 'around average' (not above like usual, and not below). But it would be quite a revelation.

Brian (GMG) has been taking time out from the forum, but has been in touch and is ok

lol it is a shame the software doesn't support variations

I think it's possibly time that we merged the functions and budget of the UKMeto into the ECMWF and have a pan-European all resources into one pot type organisation.

Yes - even the lowest predicted dotted line looks to be in jeopardy!

Please can we cut out the warmist/deniers name-calling. It's not pretty and it doesn't add to anybody's argument and it only serves to help discussions degenerate into name-calling. If you can't make a point without such language consider if the point you are trying to make is actually worth it and stands up to a decent standard of discussion. Can I also point out this thread is to discuss activity on the sun,predictions of activity and aurora. I've opened a thread in the more appropriate Climate Change area to discuss the effects of a quiet sun on our climate here: http://www.netweathe...c-consequences/ Ta

Cheers AM - will be good to have a more focussed discussion on this and separate out the two topics so readers can choose what to read