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57 minutes ago, clark3r said:
18z goes for 36 degrees on 26 June 2023.
With a chart like that on the 18z with highest 850s arriving at peak time and if the SE were to avoid any sig rainfall next 10 days, then I don’t see why we wouldn’t break 38-39C again.
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Yeah managed my first tornado on Saturday which was a blast! Today, we were on one of the few tornado-warned storms N of Springfield, Missouri.
We've got a down day tomorrow as we're setting up for upcoming risk over Southern Plains.
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Looks like some cloud clearance beginning to appear around the Exeter region.
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Chase is on the cards today. Going to head down to the M4 corridor, I think somewhere just west of Reading and that should give me plenty of time to make any calls.
4 minutes ago, Southern Storm said:Yeah, I've just booked the afternoon off work so definitely a chance it will all go bust
On a more serious note, it definitely feels quite humid outside this morning, but it's totally cloudy where I am.
Do we need this to clear to maximize our chances, or are other atmospheric factors at work?
Mix of both really mate, for more active thunderstorms we do need some sunny spells to develop.
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2 hours ago, Supacell said:
I am planning on chasing tomorrow if it still looks good in the morning
Should the models show similar tomorrow, I may also join you on the road!
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Did enquire about the Netweather tours, but decided to try and get a group together instead. I'm heading out with 3 others on May 12th for 2 weeks so hopefully might run into some of you out there!
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7 hours ago, WeatherArc said:
Dreaming of those big import night events this year! If EC 0z is anything to go by, we could be looking at a decent imported event next 10 days or so.
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Still relatively sleety here in Wallingford, but seeing many more proper large white flakes.
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Some heavier precipitation beginning to move in now, dewpoints are just above 0c but not massively so, so fingers crossed we can get a nice snow show!
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Very little to show for here in Wallingford, seems to have lost its intensity really on approach. That saying, I feel our region may benefit more from this evenings action.
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2 minutes ago, sheikhy said:The UKV uses the same boundary conditions as the deterministic (UKMO) model. Therefore, you might expect the UKV to follow closer to the trend of the UKMO more often than not. So if the UKMO is "playing catch up" with the ECM, chances are the UKV might be as well.
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/approach/modelling-systems/unified-model/weather-forecasting
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Unfortunately haven't got much time to post on here tonight as you can imagine work is... hectic! However, I am in agreement with what the Met O is going for over the next 36-48 hours. IMO, I think we'll see an Amber at some point, probably around the M4 corridor and covering Exmoor/Dartmoor/S Wales.
Best of luck to you all and hope you get a nice covering of snow!
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Not sure if already posted, but UKV 9z & AROME 6z decent for snow showers, Somerset, Bath into CS England tomorrow morning.
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29 minutes ago, Mike Poole said:
ECM ensembles T168 (or some of them anyway!):
And here’s the way out! As @bluearmy rather cryptically noted above, there’s a sizeable number of these that put up a ridge in front of the low that would otherwise bring the downfall of the UK cold spell were it to cross the Atlantic and impinge on the UK bringing air from the south.
Here’s perturbation 12 to illustrate what I mean:
It will be really interesting to see if this option gathers traction - it would gain traction if the models are currently underplaying the potential to maintain or re-build heights in the Greenland area, and it is entirely plausible that they may be. One to watch.
I really wouldn't rule this scenario out as I've seen it a number of times before. This would be the ultimate cherry on top, to prolong this very cold spell even further towards Christmas.
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Much better set of GFS ensembles this morning, with confidence growing of the cold extending all the way through next week. After that some indications of a Scandi high developing, which may result in a temporary mild spell but it's all speculation at this point.
Regarding the sliding low, it's better from all the main models today (bar the ICON, which is a bit further north), as we maintain a NE-ENE'ly flow. Admittedly, most of them produce little to no precipitation over the UK, but we know not to take these as gospel at this range.
Now we await the EC!
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GFS 6z at T114, slightly shallower and more elongated low in the Atlantic for sure.
EDIT: Now deeper than 00z by T126 but remains further W.
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ICON beyond T180, if it were to exist, then imagine it would be a cracker. Sliding low across S England/N France, airmass over Scandinavia becoming increasingly colder, strong WAA towards Greenland too and the high strengthening further over Iceland. All a recipe for a very cold pattern over the UK.
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4 minutes ago, RainAllNight said:
Interesting. So the air that's coming down to us from the north this week could be a lot colder (or warmer) than we're expecting?
Generally, the models have a decent grasp at the "big picture" but there's every chance the airmass might be a couple degrees warmer/colder, exactly as @Met4Cast highlighted in his previous post.
One thing to add about observations too, is that observations at the surface are sparse enough as it is in the Arctic Circle. But observations at 1.5km height in the atmosphere in the Arctic Circle are even rarer.
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21 minutes ago, Met4Cast said:And as these observations are fed into model through data assimilation. This is where a few people were talking before; because the Arctic is so observation-sparse, we really don't know the state of the atmosphere until the airmass makes it in range.
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Just for fun, but after T384 it looks like another Scandi high developing, I think
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3 minutes ago, Johnp said:In a bad way presumably? Looks like the pv wants to regroup.
Quite the opposite imo. If the GFS is anything to go by, the polar vortex is all over the shop and away from Greenland/Canada, which is the most important thing!
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Purely for fun at this point, but what's that like a 980hPa low deepening well within the Arctic Circle at T318??
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Storms and Convective discussion - June 2023
in Storms & Severe Weather
Posted · Edited by Ben Sainsbury
UKV & GFS going for a similar theme on Sunday (the day which looks most interesting to me), with scattered showers/thunderstorms at first, before merging into multi-cells. Seems to be an outside risk of an isolated supercell given the atmospheric profile, but would certainly be talking of more organised convection than the week just gone.
Skew-T shows decent SB instability around 1,500J/Kg, more than sufficient although relatively skinny at upper levels and profile is pretty saturated. Some directional & speed shear, with decent veering in the low-levels. This combined with stream-wise vorticity and low LCLs suggests risk of funnel clouds or a weak tornado too.
Other models more keen on elevated thunderstorms rather than surface-based, which would negate any severe risk.
Merely speculating at this point, but hints of something promising somewhere across England/Wales on Sunday.