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18Z Ens CET 2M Temps see's the GFS op very much on the milder side in FI
Also note a -10 in there!
Let's hope the 0Z reverts back to one of the colder options.
It's been a long day. Let's all hope for upgrades tomorrow.
Goodnight.
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Just a quick reminder just how spectacularly wrong the ECM can be at Day 10....
Here is what the ECM was predicting on Nov 8th for Day 10
If i remember correctly, one or two (me included if i'm honest) were getting a little excited.
But..... the actually chart that verified for that day....
Completely and utterly wrong!
Of course, this is just one example, but to be honest there have been many many more examples like that which have happened over the last few months with regards to this model. Like Nick S said earlier, it really has been all over the place in it's predictions way out in la la land for quite some time now, and that's why i'd be very wary of what it is showing in FI. It may be the 'daddy' when it comes to weather models, but just like the rest of them, it does have it's flaws.
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Eighteenth Christmas update
I must say, i do love it when Gavin P goes into 'ramp mode'
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Lol, Just take a look at this beauty.
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Control run at Day 10 backing the GFS + GFS(P)
All eyes now on the upcoming ECM. Please don't let 'us' down....
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X-mas day, Low pressure coming up from the SW, Cold air digging in all the while from the North. No prizes for guessing what happens next
Snow for some (midlands north)
Then a full on Blizzard for boxing day / 27th
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Anyone that is interested in LR Models, (i must say i'm not) then Gavin P has just made a video about what the JMA + CFS are showing for the next 2 - 3 Months.
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You don't get to see Boxing Day charts like this very often, so enjoy!
Of course, just for fun at this stage, but you just never know....
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Fantastic post as always Tamara
Looking at today's updated AO forecast, many members taking a nose dive into negative territory as we head towards the New Year.
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GEFS are surprisingly looking good for a decent shot of cold on Xmas day, the North defo in for a chance of snow. Heights piling into Greenland also.
In fact, they are amazing. All is not lost with many showing -6 or colder uppers heading in.
Yep, best set of Ens we've seen all Winter by the looks of things.
http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_panel.php?modele=0&mode=1&ech=300
Lots of 'potential' there.
Just when you thought it was a done deal.
At least we can look forward to tomorrow now with a little interest
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Always seem to be a certain few willing to knock that model and if you've followed it's output as close as I have then what you have posted is a rogue run, back in mid-November for a short period regular blocking was being shown on various runs and quite regularly (particularly in Jan/Feb) but as the weeks have passed the model has generally dropped such scenario's and unfortunately continued with the Azores/near continent to the SE High pressure cell whilst at other times a low pressure dominated theme.
By the way nothing vindictive in my prior post towards yourself - just making a point
We'll have to agree to disagree, because like i said, i have seen quite a few 'blocked' February charts.
Anyway, let's leave it there.
Merry Christmas
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Yeah but isn't that just from the 18z run of that particular day? - I've seen many a run on the 9 month model which shows nothing of the sort - I think your just cherry picking so you can hold a grudge against the model!
Well, we must of been viewing it differently then because i have seen quite a few blocked charts from the CFS as of late. Especially February. And i hope it continues that way because there is nobody who would love to see a blocked last two thirds of Winter more than me.
And i'm not one for holding a grudge at all, so your suggestion of me holding a grudge against a LR model is laughable.
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How many more blocked charts like these is the CFS gonna throw out at us...?
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Where oh where is this going....
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RE the CFS, I had noticed that the HLB signal for January had disappeared over the past week (to be replaced with something akin to what we have now). I wonder if this is the reason?
Hi CC.
Ironically, since you said about the disappearing signal of HLB for January i have kept an eye on the CFS, and to be honest HLB for january has come back quite strongly in it's last few updates.
Here's the most recent update for January...
And just for fun, here's February...
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Don't believe it sorry, he seems like a Corbyn or a Madden, don't care how much he knows about weather! I only know the basics, and I am going for a wet/windy Xmas, mm wonder who will be closer
Ermmm... Gavin P is not 'forecasting' a bitterly cold xmas/new year, he is clearly just showing and commenting on what the CFS is showing!!!
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Gavin P's Fourteenth Christmas/New Year update, and just like the 13th update it ends up a real cold one, with heavy snow and blizzards!
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Nice one Steve.
Good luck.
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Good old Gavin P ramping up Xmas and the New Year... lol
You just can't beat a good ramp!
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Disagree on first sentence (I recall well the persistent zonal & routinely deeply cyclonic signature it accurately offered almost every run!) but largely subscribe to your second point!
There we have it, from the horses mouth so to speak.
Anything past 14 days (10 at a push in my book) is not worth worrying about.
I can never understand those who get so hooked up and worried when LR models (especially seasonal ones) show no sign of cold.
Anyway, looking at the 18Z gefs at Day 10 there is just enough there to keep coldies at least a 'little' interested.
http://www.meteociel.fr/cartes_obs/gens_panel.php?modele=0&mode=0&ech=240
We're only at the very start of Winter 2014/15, so onwards and upwards i say.
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Also, interesting video from Simon Keeling today.
...But can us 'Coldies' really trust the CFS?????
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Gavin P has issued his Winter 2014/15 forecast.
If you haven't the time to watch the whole video, the Main headlines are:
Relatively mild first half of Winter, then becoming progressively colder into the second half.
Overall UK probably slightly milder than average, but significantly colder than last Winter.
Maybe a blocked pattern emerging later on after a mid Winter SSW, which should allow much more prolonged cold for February.
Snowfall close to average, but there maybe more during the 'fighting' of December and particularly January than in February, when the overall pattern turns cold and blocked.
A very interesting Winter on the way with something for everyone if this forecast is correct.
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To all cold/snow weather fans,
MERRY CHRISTMAS
Love from...
The CFS.
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GFS is looking a bit lonely in all honesty in showing a flatter pattern at Day 6
Meanwhile the GEM + UKMO show more apmlification in the Atlantic, bringing in a northerly of sorts at Day 6...
More of what's below could be on the face of the GFS again, especially if the upcoming ECM shows a similar pattern as the GEM / UKMO
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Model Output Discussion - The Run In To Christmas
in Forecast Model Discussion
Posted · Edited by SE Blizzards
Last night there was a -10 showing up in the ENS for 2M temps in central England.
Now there is a -13.
I wonder if we can go lower than that on the next set?
Updated AO forecast 18thDec: