GFS blows away the block in FI- Quelle suprise,what a joke of a model it really is.... In the high res we at least see some snow events as the Atlantic pushes up against the block to the NE.
Agreed Nick
If we dont see at least a subtle change in the outlook then i for one will begin to worry.
EDIT Im looking forward to the GFS06Z and impatiently waiting for the misery model to correct south.
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2401.html A pretty chart if its cold you are after with a huge anticyclone over NW Russia moving westwards and a pretty significant Artic high moving out the Arctuc circle of 1040mb. The deep purples have also drained away from Greenland. I doubt the Atlantic will be going anywhere but SE moving forward from that.
Fantastic output this morning with GEM taking top prize.
ECM looks cold and wintry as we move through next week.
All in all the meto surely have to move towards something more wintry,surely..
wow tiets,we posted at the same time,same thinking..
Hope so Steve- The ensembles for De Bilt have most certainly trended colder. Will be fascinating to see if GFS continues in the same vein as the Euro models. METO update again awaited for signs of a move towards a colder outlook.(God knows iv'e only been waiting since like November)!
Yes im not sure how Gibby can say the window has closed a little more for cold this morning. If anything the wintry charts have upgraded since yesterday....
Yes,ECM also brings in some cold air and before anyone jumps in with a 'here comes the Atlantic zonal regime',yes it is zonal but is COLD zonal. Exciting stuff, could our fortunes be about to turn>
Absolutely,no truck with that- im very wary of NWP until i see the metoffice 'on board'.
The picture is complex though and the UKMO 144 looks finely balanced.The 12z ensembles have also trended colder.
We'll see...
I was talking about the UKMO run but the GEFS suite has trended colder this evening.
Hence my more optimistic stance.
The point is,they get it wrong sometimes and have been wrong at short,medium and long range timeframes. The GEFS 12Z suite and ukmo are looking good for a cold shot. It may or may not happen,we'll see...
And?
UKMO favour a return to Atlantic regime,they also favoured a barbeque summer in 2007/8?
They get it wrong sometimes Purga,as do we all.
Anyway,GEFS 12Z are looking very good for next week.