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Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Look at the heights split at the pole!!! WOW what a turn around. Guys we now know it's only at T-72 that models can model the correct solution of energy from the SSW. It's going to be like this for every day of this next two weeks so let's all promise not to look any further than that? -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Look at the difference in heights already on the GFS to the North East. The models are terrible with this scenario and it makes all the difference when a mesoscale short wave makes all the difference -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
It's not a case of we've lost all chance now because the second warming will open up another chance. It's a case of being in or close to March and needing the position of the second chance being able to advect -10 uppers and lower at that time of year. As singularity states the high pulling in that cold from Asia does give us that chance -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
You can also see how much closer the cold air is. It's not about the yellows its the angle of the ridging as well -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Not true the angle at 87 hours is more vertical and the heights over Greenalnd held back it's better -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The 18z ensembles are terrible. Agreement on a warm up and only small support for a cool down after the 21st. Oh dear....... -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Cheers for ruining my next half hour on meteociel ???????? -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Agreed going back to the original idea 5 days ago. I like it. When retrogression comes it should leave us with less chance of West based negative NAO -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I don't mind the ECM. Okay no UK high but the heights building out of Scandi on the 168..... Slower but should be better going forward and opens up Scandi heights instead of Greenland ones -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The GFS 12z is trending even worse for The initial latitude of the MLB -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
I'm with BA sometimes when a SSW is too extreme and -NAO so strong this happens. If it was to happen it's going to be with these synpoptics. Just another variation but shows what may go wrong. Sometimes blocking is too blocky -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
??? my sentiments exactly! NO CHANCE -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Yeah and I agree with em! It's just nonsense that run its saying there is no SSW. The PV just can't do that..... the next time we have a strat warning remind me to not take the models serious! -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
How can that ECM run even be possible with the current warming? Bin it the models are really really struggling it's like a bad soap opera! One good day one bad! -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Heights are 200miles further south. It's not a great start. It's delays well see if all routes lead to cold soon -
Model output discussion - Post SSW - Will it turn cold?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
Very poor start to the 12z heights way lower around Iceland similar to the older ECM runs from 2 days ago -
Model output discussion - proper cold spell inbound?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
It's the chunk of vortex left over Iceland that slows down the evolution. If you look at the ECM this had the same as well -
Model output discussion - proper cold spell inbound?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The lobe of lower heights over Iceland is the same as the ECM a move to this model by the looks -
Model output discussion - proper cold spell inbound?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The end of the run isnt implausible of course. We have a reverse flow pulling those lows into the Atlantic from Russia re-orientating the northern blocking and stopping retrogression to Greenland. Sometimes an extreme reverse flow can work against and let's be honest this an extreme SSW -
Model output discussion - proper cold spell inbound?
inghams85 replied to Paul's topic in Forecast Model Discussion
The changes compared to yesterday 12z's for the better are incredible..... Things are looking so interesting now! -
Last few frames show a quick shift South again and decay! What is going on lol we can't catch no luck!
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My radar shows 27 minutes snow with the next blob. We may get a centre metre of two. It's actually still intensifying. It should hit you about 21:55
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I think the second blob will miss. I'm watching the blob coming out of Scotland towards Cumbria. That is on a much better trajectory and is intensifying with more behind. Could be our 11pm-12pm streamer Edit you could be right it's started on a slightly further north trajectory we should get something
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Winds will begin to turn more and more Westerly from now. There is a very pronounce streamer for South Yorkshire bad West Yorkshire on the Euro4 by midnight so I'm hanging in yet
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Mate literally 5 miles out lol what the....