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The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
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The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
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The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Exactly right @ArHu3 the Fax charts are created by the human experts who tweak the UKMO output based on their high level knowledge and experience. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Phew, you had me worried. I needed a stiff drink after reading that -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Never wrong? Seriously? A NWP algorithm never wrong? I hope you're being ironic. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
All in good fun. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Don't worry shaky, I think the 12zs will be OK. And don't let other folks' schadenfreude wind you up. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
I like it how you deliberately included the odd misspelling the OP used in your response I thought I'd become accustomed to some of the appalling mangling of the English language here but 'soar' instead of 'sore' is a brand new and highly amusing example. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Christmas Eve just came into view on the 00z. And very much for fun only, it would be ding dong merrily on high, and those dreaming of a white Christmas would just have to look out the window. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Been busy doing other stuff. Come back and check ECM and find this. Lovely run. The cold air just comes in and stays until day 10 for Central Europe. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Yes, tonight's ECM really will be one to watch. Stronger block and less punch to those atlantic weather weather bombs in the 12z output so far. It'll be interesting to see what the ECM makes of it. Arguably a model much less inclined towards progging oceanic dartboards. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
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The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Me neither -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
So marginal to marginal then? Let's just call it marginal among friends -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
To be fair, I did go on to say use the the new GFS, aka the FV3, I just don't see any point using the old one anymore to be precise. You make some good points about using various models to take into account their biases and thats exactly why I said to use the UKMO, ECM and the FV3 (new GFS) in my original post. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Good news everyone! The output now shows cold zonal! -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Parts of. In Warsaw it is mildish on Sunday Monday then trending to average and slightly below from Tuesday. Don't forget, it unusual for the warmer parts of Poland and most of Germany to have above freezing spells in December. Still early in the season. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Chilly rain, the worst weather for running imo. Keep the faith shaky and get out there and laugh in the face of the weather gods. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Agreed. If only it would verify as it sets us up very nicely for a white Christmas and we may avoid the dreaded mild spell that often happens that time of year in Central Europe. Very naughty of me to post 384h charts but doesn't get much better than this for festive cheer -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Worrying about the old soon to be replaced GFS output is akin to complaining about how your old banger keeps breaking down when you have 2 or 3 new reliable cars sat in the garage. Treat the GFS as pure entertainment only, whether that be positive or a horror show. Save the real worry and analysis for UKMO, ECM and the FV3. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
It will be a scandal for some if it doesn't come to fruition -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Agreed. I suspect it will be deflected somewhat more than modelled. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Looking only to 144h, UKMO vs GFS vs ECM. UKMO I would say has the most northerly extension of the block and also an interesting placement of that little system north of the Azores. I would suggest there could still be something in this for the UK, too early to call it quits just yet, but yes, as that dreadfully overused netweather cliché says, it's squeaky bum time. -
The hunt for cold - Model discussion (late November)
Seasonality replied to Paul's topic in Spring Weather Discussion
Why can't you just admit you got it/expressed it wrong? None of us are all knowing. Genuine bit of advice not a dig. I think this place would be much easier at times if we'd all openly admit our limitations and errors.