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What do the experts think will happen during spring with this current La nina is it similar to 2000 of course it`s not going to be exactly like it by quite a way in terms of dates just a previous year to go by though of what could happen. This time 8 years ago nothing but a mild day. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/2000/...00120000223.png The only wintry day during the rest of Feb here was this which gave hail,sleet and snow showers with temps around 1c above in the daytime with it close to 0c at night. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/2000/...00220000228.png It wasn`t until March 4th when the next air frost came from a brief N-ly must of been snow showers in the north,nothing here. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/2000/...00120000304.png http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/2000/...00220000304.png Then it was mild/very mild until the end of March with no more frost until the 26th ground frost,then a change of pattern with a high building just to the north giving a colder NE-ly with a few odd snow showers just a sprinkling with 3 air frosts down to -4c. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/2000/...00220000328.png http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/2000/...00120000329.png As April came as a complete shock at the time with not seeing any forecasts aswell that was our winter for snowfall similar like last february was it gave us 9 inches in all with early blizzards and alot of the roads(lanes) were blocked also brought a tree down with even severe gales Had more snow on the 11/12th which gave a slight covering also with just a few snow drifts remaing by April 18th.

Last January I had 4 air frosts and one at 0.4c This Jan 2 air frosts and 7 below 2c with 3 at 0c It seems the least Jan recorded below 0c here was 1990 with just one at -1c being the Jan highest min here. :o Plenty of zero`s though like 7 with this one of those nights,and 5 at 2c. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119900127.gif http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00219900127.gif

Not today sunny here and quite low lying fog by the severn and as I went further north this afternoon it got more denser with some ice on the trees and grass in Oswestry, not sure what temps were but at a guess about 0.5 to 1c.

It seems to be getting less in the valleys I`m noticeing in recent years, all this week is given is mist or thicker mist at best mind that`s from the continental dry air I expect this week, although they are getting fog further east it seems now. Mistiness by the streams also giving much more frost making it whiter. As TM said though we still get plenty of hill fog and this winter`s been good for that but december was the best eg of freezing fog for 2 winters here coming from an east wind and there was fog even on low ground which doesn`t happen very often as have way down the hill it thinned out. Had fog the other day also coming from the east as Teitis had sea fog earlier, it soon lifted into stratus next day though. Last summer gave hill fog at times too even rarer to see hill fog in July quite thick. :huh:

I should of put the coldest day during that winter(1999-2000) in december was only 1 ice day all winter was 0.5c colder to the 3 ice days this winter here also 3 in december and one in January, now that looks better.

So the last la nina winter like this year was 1999-2000 November gave no snow different to this one. Thought there was a similar pattern to that winter at times there was a cold snap or 2 in december then. This being the coldest night/day under HP and a max which was colder than the coldest day this winter by 1c. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119991220.gif Had more snow that month also. Got an odd snow flurry in January literally :lol: http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/2000/...00120000124.png The best feb gave in terms of frost at -4c old gauge, infact that was a very poor month overall did get odd days of wintry showers from the atlantic though like this winter infact http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/2000/...00120000220.png The first half of March only gave 1 frost and a hail shower But winter came in April big time with heavy snow and blizzards at 6 inches during this day to start with. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/20...00120000403.gif April 1989 was another when winter arrived late with cold east winds and snow showers less snow to April 2000 though.

What`s the warmest temp now is it 17c ????? Who`s left on the list.

Yes last winter has been worse than this winter so far at least we`re getting colder air from the west this time which is an improvement. As for last febs very heavy snow we had 12 inches here last time we had had was January 1987 and I don`t think we had that much then maybe 10"(wish I kept records of the 80`s ) so that was a very rare event last feb except it didn`t last long enough.

So far this feb is better than 1998 just had 1 light sleet shower on the 1st then and some snow showers on the 28th with a dusting and nothing inbetween. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119980228.gif So far every day this month seen 4 day with either sleet or snow falling with a dusting, beating that year already just to make you feel better. :lol I wouldn`t be surprised that winter will come in spring this year with cold NW-ly snaps. Like what happened in April 1998. 6 inches of snow that gave with NE gales that day and drifting and very cold at 1c :blush: after a very warm feb, I not writing this month off at all as it can change quickly, well HP will be welcome firstly. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119980409.gif

Last Jan had 4 air frosts with just 2 ground frosts. So far this time even less air frosts yet at 2 but with more ground frosts at 7. As for Jan 2006 had 5 air frosts and also 5 ground frosts.

Nope the cold air didn`t really reach the south during that -5c upper westerly with 8-10c in the south. This weekened is interesting as with the exceptional mild upper air thats shown sunday upto +12c http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/Rmgfs302.gif And surface temps the same or lower with cooler air shown to a few days ago, bbc go for 10-12c max with 4c min tonight in the SW which should slow the CET from rising as much.... 8.7c here now under sunnier skies and a strongish SW wind. http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn3617.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn307.png

Mildest upper air temps shown since early december today at +9 in the south but max here was 10.8c in a SW-ly.

Interesting. Looks like theres some slightly cooler surface air mixed into the high making temps look less mild than the uppers suggest and also lighter winds. http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn1442.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn1447.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn14417.png

http://www.xcweather.co.uk/ Storm force winds at Glen Ogle gusting to 110mph!!!!!!!

Not going to be as mild as early december, 11.4c today but it is the mildest Jan day I`ve seen since 2003.

It was great to see cold zonality making it work last week with 6 days I`ve recorded sleet and 3 with snow falling(very brief on one day)and 1 day settling giving a covering during that cold strong SW-ly on wednesday night into thursday. As for that december 2004 snowy christmas that was more of a NW-ly flow. I`ve been looking at this last night and January 1999 was even more S/SW with 3 inches with gave 2 days of hail/sleet then snow showers the first day then heavy snow showers with drifting followed by rain/sleet showers followed by a thaw with temps 1c higher to last wednesday 3c(average max) and the previous day shown here,but 1c lower at night to last week on 1 of these nights. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00119990117.gif http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...00219990117.gif And some places in the south had lying snow during friday with that S-ly tracking low aswell. Pity it`s looking so good for next week as the high in the south moves to the wrong place.

Had a very surprising weather event here with a squall and a hailstorm at temps of 7.3c to start as they plummetted down by 3c in 30 seconds followed by now heavy snow in a strong SW wind and already got a covering on snow with temps now at 1.3c remarkable.

August this year was cooler though at 15.4c, 2006`s was average after the record breaking hot July. And what about July this year at 15.2c the same as 1993. Since 1966 say there has only been 3 July`s colder 1978 at 14.8c, 1980 and 1988 both at 14.7c That actually makes it the 4th coolest July I`ve lived through after last years hottest.

Thats sounds about right except if it was 3-5c with wind it would make it cold and 10-13c is very mild although to see 6 to 7c shown on the bbc forecast say in march in a fresh NW-ly is cold and cold enough for snow showers here. Today was 6.6c here so just I put it as above average by 1c even though it felt rather fresh. A max of 0.0c to -3c with no or just thawing very slight but briefly still as icicles form is what I aim for. But even in the bitterly cold february 1986 with a cet of -1.1c there were days when at a certain time of day around mid-late morning it starting thawing slightly on the less cold days during that month in the shade and it was cloudy can`t say what the maxes was then. There were sunny days that month also when snow had thawed 2 or 3 some of the steepest fields facing the sun and there were many icicles on the roof that month amazing. As for a maxes of -8c to -11c that was exceptional like in december 81 or Jan 82 and Jan 87 when snow/frost wouldn`t even thaw in the sun now thats exceptional. Another thing it depends which direction the wind is coming from on how cold we aim for like we`ve had mild NW-lys coming round the top of a HP. Another thing I remember is we had a bitterly cold easterly one year then the wind changed during the cold spell to a cold north or NW but it was`nt quite the same as an east wind with slightly more thawing and it didn`t feel as cold, that may of been feb 1991 I`m thinking of.

I`m very happy with that, 2nd month I`ve got bang on this year .... that makes 5 years now since 1900 that 4.9 cet was made. 1905/1945/1973 and 1989.

Last jan was 7.0c and the mildest on record, 6.7c would be the equal 2nd mildest with 1983 ands thats since 1900, I can`t see that happening myself, but stranger things have happened I suppose.

3.3c please, the coldest since 2001 which was 1c below average.

Yes the CET going to take a hammering today and another cold day tomorrow not quite as cold as today especially later in the west. Saturday`s not looking that mild either as it was a few days ago and sunday`s looking cold again. http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn5417.png http://85.214.49.20/pics/Rtavn7217.png GFS is getting very good with these temp forecasts as 1c was the max shown for today it was colder than that in places with the freezing fog.

Light snow flurries within the last hour with a layer of stratus/east/SE wind 0.4c now.

Skies are clearing here and the wind has picked up light to moderate from the east/SE at -0.3c.