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And some of the country is under flood water now aswell it`s going to take along while for all this to soak off now making the soil like late autumn/winter conditions which won`t help either. Little early for my guess yet as I want a warm August so I`m not sure what to go for and whether we`ll break out of this awful pattern.

We had a S-ly tracking jet in summer 2004 as I remember the BBC showing the same thing then with the jet coming over us but it should be much further north towards Iceland. The we had charts like this during winter when we had a major pattern change of northern blocking and the return of the east winds. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/20...00120050223.gif But this summer i`s relentless as the jet is stronger and even further south over torwards Spain at times with lows tracking further south and not moving much which is why we`re getting much much more rainfall looks like it goes further north next week as lows over Scotland once again with strong W-lys. Maybe a sign of a colder winter to come if we`re on the polar side but who knows what`ll happen it`s really surprised me this year has since January actually.

Been dry most of the morning now it`s just starting raining lightly as it looks to be gathering a little strength looking at the radar and coming in from the west.

Well it`s stopped raining this morning and I have to say it`s the 2nd wettest spell I`ve ever seen with one autumn a few years back it was wetter but the ground was hard then,2.6inches altogether and the valleys are flooded especially the river severn,and there`s underground streams even in the fields and water everywhere as it`s soaking off big time. It will be a disaster for crops,even our damson`s are dropping off and going red. Tell me I`m dreaming!!!! http://85.214.49.20/pics/brack1a.gif

It`s looking better on the lastest radar but it`s still raining here and it`s breezier and colder I don`t mind the cold part. 2 inches...wettest July day I`ve recorded now!!!!

They forgot to mention a very S-ly jet is what`s causing this then. A very concering spell this is raining heavy here now and it`s not going to stop even into tomorrow. This summer is unprecidented.

Saw Wales weather and it was very grim don`t know how the severn will cope from all this it was suppose to of eased off tonight but the rainband doesn`t shift just hope it fragments, now if this was winter we`d get 3 ft of snow.

It is a real worry actually the next 48hrs are a major worry as this rain is not forecast to stop all night and tomorrow for Wales and other parts this is serious. there`s small pools in the fields now,seen water I`ve never seen in summer before.

That stand-out ppn in NE Wales is moving W/NW which gave the thunder before still the odd rumble from that. Could well be an interesting night with more echoes heading this way from the SE. Been raining for well over an hour now though and it`s not light.

Just had a great nightime thunderstorm with quite abit of bright sheet lightning well it would be at night. :unsure: CC`s and 1 or 2 CG`s the main part went just NE of here,it`s seems to have stopped at the moment. Did`nt expect thunder tonight I must admit. Edit: rumble of thunder then there are a few flashes SE too.

There`s some heavy rain in sw Wales now,can see cirrostratus to the south although there`s blue skies also perhaps it`s showery in nature.

Had 2 thundery showers pass to the east late afternoon. Then another came from the SW with 3 distant CG`s and a little sheet lightning but more thunder and a heavy fairly short shower as the thunder stopped as it came overhead.

Get this it made 21.6c today and it reached 21.4c same day here. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/20...00120060712.gif Then almost 30c here at 29.8c.

I certainly agree about not wanting an atlantic wet winter as last year was no exception it`s the last thing I want to see as it dragged on and on, although we did get a huge amount of snow at one time but just for 3 days,as for a mild ,dry sunny winter it`s better but no thanks a cold mainly dry winter with more snow than rain like 2 years ago oh yes. I`d like to see summer arriving firstly though. then a cool/cold autumn not like last year.

Looks like the coolest June since 2004 now and we`ve had 3 times more rainfall to then. If it gets back upto 15.5 it`ll be my first right guess. <_<

Jan: 75mm Feb: 56mm March:50mm April: 13mm :lol: May: 100mm June: 308mm June`s not over yet.

Wales is another place thunderstorms are much less common than other parts of the UK, yesterday and today are great eg`s not even a shower today, as other places east have seen storms. Once the fresher north or west comes then I only expect showers. There`s those very rare occasions when a thunderstorm does come from the west here just once as I`ve seen maybe more with thundery showers(rumbles) when it`s not warm/humid beforehand as thats the only time it does happen otherwise when a cold front comes from the west/NW then but usually the best storms are to our east. Last Tuesday was excellent to say the least for thunderstorms as the much warmer upper air/ humid unstable air came from the SE. I`m more than happy with what I`ve seen so far better than last year to this date by far. Never actually heard thunder by the coast.

Very true it`s not the temp that counts so much in summer but how wet or dull it is. As for here the first 10 days of June have been very warm and with lots of sun with temps of 20 odd average,it went downhill very quick as over 3.5inches of rain came end of last week which the ground is saturated after been dry and starting to burn. Next week looks even worse with rain starting tonight as last week it broke down last Wednesday with a heavy shower. So west has been best for sunshine and warmer temps with an east wind. But this June could rival 1982 in local parts for the amount of rain never seen the river`s so full for June before. It just reached 10c in the NE on this day similar set-up to now with the jet gone AWOL except it`s not as far south as then, and nothing like as month for thunderstorms to then which some were severe. If this N-ly comes after which looks likely this month willl be remembered for some time by me.

Very interesting There must of been 40 Cg`s on Fridays storm that`s without the other lightning as there was 3/4 on the go here as there was the convergence zone coming from the SE with other cells building around. As yesterday they were just thundery showers and I always thought that you can`t get a tornado unless there`s a thunderstorm either but a funnel cloud yes as I`ve seen one in just a normal looking shower cloud which lasted for 30 mins a few years ago.

Depends really where you are and where the storm is located if in a distance I`m outside in a field watching them for hours I`m totally hooked as soon as there`s that 1st rumble although when overhead it`s not a good place to be as I was yesterday but I did run undercover I go in somewhere to get a great view or the house but I can`t stay there long don`t get the full affects. Even in junior school a question came up what`s your fav things and I said thunder she thought I was crazy. :wacko: :lol: But there was this one storm that went too far in 1985 which started out a normal storm but turned severe with 2 of the most loudest lightning ever it sounded like it hit the roof of the building I was in then I ran like hell to the house then another earpopping severe strike followed by the loudest noise I`ve ever heard(I had a fear of loud noises years ago well still do with loud bangs) electric was out then of course but the fuse in the house lit up from that then it just stopped dead I`ll never forget that how it never struck anything I don`t know.

I say a heavy/shower with a rumble or 2. If more with some lightning and thunder or no lightning and just thunder a thundery shower same goes for thundery rain. Moderate amount lightning and thunder a thunderstorm. Or in yesterday`s case with quite alot of CG`s/CC`s and sheet with torrential rain/hail a major thunderstorm. Then there`s a severe thunderstorm with frequent CG`s near continuous thunder. When it comes to nightime though you can get lightning without thunder from either distant cells or above your house.

Hope to see this sometime this summer which does happen year with HP closeby or over us in July but for 3 weeks or so. http://www.wetterzentrale.de/archive/ra/19...ea001198304.gif

As I feared too far north for anything exciting here now as winds are to stay at east/NE-ly then north as it`s much cooler the further north you go then showers lose the intensity,and all we`ve got here is low cloud/fog with outbreaks of moderate rain. http://www.xcweather.co.uk Hopeing the low cloud clears tomorrow but I have my doubts. :lol: The low is just tracking a little further south than shown yesterday just too far. :lol: if it was winter great. http://85.214.49.20/pics/brack0.gif http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/Rmgfs274.gif Cooler than today even. South Wales looks good though for thundery showers.

Too much mid-level cloud cover today for thunder here did see the cumulus trying to reach up in the more clearer gaps which were few and far between but there was an impressive Tcu to the east early afternoon...had a heavy shower with much lighter showery rain,and it is much more humid to yesterday. I`m looking to friday for the best change for thundery heavy showers this week. http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/Rtavn481.png http://85.214.49.20/wz/pics/Rtavn484.png