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8 minutes ago, NEVES SCREAMER said:
Making up for no summer in July ???
Maybe you will have your summer back next year. One poor July and you heat lovers cry foul. How many months out of the last 24 have been above average? The vast majority and I don't expect that trend to change much . This month, there that's another one more then likely to add to the list.....
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10 minutes ago, razorgrain said:
Should be fun to see if we can challenge the October record high this year!
Prefer to have the October record low challenged. Aren't there enough warm records being broken these days?
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Definitely an autumn day here. Cloudy and wet , 13c atm.
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17c and raining here ,humidity and heat gone.
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Oooh 53 v 47 % in favour so far of those that dislike it.
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22 minutes ago, mike57 said:
16c here this morning but humidity must be close to 100%. Sun now out. Hopefully a sea breeze will kick in later, but very little breeze now. I am doing a major home office reconfiguration to introduce new hardware and bin old stuff. I am sweating like a pig. Another unfortunate consequence of heat is I tend to get the s**ts, but at least I am now WFH until next Thursday so should be out of the worst of it.
I often tend to get the S**ts aswell during hot spells. Thought maybe it was just me lol. Maybe it's down to drinking more water then usual other then that I can't explain it.
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7 minutes ago, Weather Enthusiast91 said:
Can't believe people are giving up on winter already when we are only just out of summer. This must be a record for the earliest "winter is over" posts yet.
Not necessarily giving up on this winter. Just an extra fear it could be poor. For now the seasonal models at least do give hope.
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2006,11, 16, 21. All recent very warm Septembers followed by crap winters.
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How people in the likes of London stick the heat is beyond me. Especially in heatwaves during the peak of summer. That would be my version of a living hell.
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5 minutes ago, Scorcher said:
Interesting that the major forecasters and the GFS are going for the same max temps here tomorrow as today- when surely everything is pointing to tomorrow being hotter.
The properly warm air has only really arrived early this afternoon today whereas tomorrow it's there from the word go and through peak heating hours.
With clear skies again I can't see any reason why tomorrow won't be hotter than today.
What about this? Dust from the Sahara. Could that possibly peg temperatures back slightly?
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1 hour ago, Summer8906 said:
Astronomical summer really finished around August 6th, if it means the three months with the greatest daylight, which it really ought to if it's truly "astronomical" summer. Logically, astronomical summer ought to mean the three months centred around the longest day.
I've always found the so-called astronomical seasons, beginning and ending on the equinoxes, illogical and arbitrary. They don't really fit any climates: in warmer climates, autumn might not set in until October, that's true - but spring starts early in February. In colder climates, spring might be delayed until April - but autumn would probably start in August.
Is there anywhere in the world where June 15th feels like spring, with blossom still in bloom and the leaves still very fresh and bright green, but at the same time, December 15th feels like autumn, with brown leaves still on the trees? I'd be surprised. Yet they are the seasons the so-called astronomical definition places those dates into.
The notion of any part of June being placed in spring, or any part of December being in autumn, seems particularly hard to fathom. (The notion of early March being winter and early September being summer is easier to understand though)
The celtic seasons would be close to what you describe. Summer ,may June, July. Autumn, August, September, Oct....and so on. That is what I was thought in school yrs ago.
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Thankfull in one way that this spell is happening now rather then summer/ peak summer. Feels like we dodged a bullet in that regard this year.
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Thought it was OK overall. July was poor but I'm not mad about heat so at least it was comfortable temperature wise. August was mixed but not too bad overall. Give me a summer like that over a very warm dry one. Comfortable.
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2 minutes ago, SollyOlly said:
Got every sympathy with you, Markyo. It's bad enough as it is, but when you've got to work in the environment that you do...well, I can't even imagine. Stay strong, brother! And hopefully we get better weather ahead.
Hopefully for the 11th. Can't be taken seriously, but gives a bit of hope for those that don't want the heat.
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Dublin Airport recorded its coldest Oct night only a few yrs ago , think it was in 2020. -2c, nothing spectacular but it isn't far from the coast.
Edit 2018. And 2018 was the last time I recorded an air frost in Oct.
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29 minutes ago, Don said:
Yes, cold nights with slight frosts in September would be great. The last time I remember air frosts in October was back in 1992.
Did you not get an air frost in late October 2010?
I remember Autumn 92 having quite a number of ground frosts. One of my favourite Autumns. An Autumn that properly felt like Autumn. From memory decent frosts from late September into early winter- late December. Although the winter overall wasn't much to write home about.
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2 minutes ago, Freeze said:
That's the thing though there hasn't been many cold winters in that time which means the theory hasn't really been put to the test.
Well I hope it doesn't have to be put to the test this yr by the time we reach the end of September. Then we only have to worry about El Niño
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2 minutes ago, Freeze said:
Surely 30years isn't enough to be considered a true correlation, there's always going to be quirks in statistics that are random, something is always going to happen more often than not somewhere and so it happens to be with Septembers and winters
But climate change though imo is making the correlation. It may be only 30 yrs but how many decent winters have we had in that time ? Not many compared to the previous 30 yrs.
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Just now, Freeze said:
It all seems a bit too 'specific', if the correlation is correct, then why does it have to be recent? And why does it have to be 15c+ in the cet?
It seems to correlate with recent yrs much more the winters 30 + yrs ago. I can only put that down to climate change. As regarding 15c cet +that just seems to be the way, can't answer that .
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37 minutes ago, Sunny76 said:
March was still chilly at times, but in all honesty, march is usually when I start looking for less cold weather and the first hints of some nice warmish days into the high teens on the odd occasion.
Yeah, sometimes it does happen, but I can give at least two occasions where a cold September led to a very mild winter.
1994 was one example, and 1992 was also another one.
92 and 94 ,cases regarding Septembers of getting past the first hurdle not the following ones.
September 2015 was cool ,got past the first hurdle. El nino was unfortunately a bigger hurdle down that particular track.
September 2021 fell flat on our faces at the first hurdle and what a crap winter 21/22 was.
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1 hour ago, Don said:
Whilst this is true, we are talking warm Septembers with a CET of 15C or more, not cooler Septembers. As I've said, I suggest people look up Gavin Partridge's video analysis he did in September 2021 on his GavsWeatherVids Youtube channel, and draw their conclusions from that.
I agree with you. There are many hurdles to get past on the way to getting a decent winter especially nowadays. I see avoiding a very warm September as the first hurdle these days. Probably a bit early yet to be worrying how warm this September could be. First half doesn't bother me, it's when the warmth extends well into the second half of the month that I worry. Regardless of the warm September = mild winter theory ( for recent times), I don't want a warm September overall anyway ,I want the autumnal feel not an extension of summer well into September.
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59 minutes ago, Don said:
Thing of the past.....
Haven't had a decent Jan cold spell since the first half of Jan 2010. Ireland missed out on the Jan 2013 spell. Honestly can't remember the last time I've had a decent cold spell during the second half of jan, probably back in the 80s. Since the climate is judged by 30 yr periods its like 2nd half of Jan proper cold spells aren't part of the climate for my location anymore. That's the way I look at it anyway.
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The Cold Haters Club 22/23
in Spring Weather Discussion
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Indeed. Wonder what it takes to please the heat lovers. In the times we live in, how they can complain is beyond me.