If were thinking in terms of trends, then surely the trend in the output for atlantic LP's to die a slow death against a block to the east/covering Britain is not a bad one to be entering the autumnal and winter period with. As all models are currently showing this, and with BFTP's 'stuck in a rut' theory, i think this is one positive to go off. Think how many times in the winter of 12/13 the block was modelled to be bulldosed, only to come to the event date and the backtrack had changed the forecast to trough disruption giving numerous snow events across Britain. This for me is a good starting block.