North West Cold Spell 9

[Cecil Hogmanay Melchett]

The main band of precipitation across Wales is now intensifying and continue to move slowly NE wards. A good chance it will stall by Mid Evening as starts to run into the colder upper air over Northern England. The East wind should also start to pick up a ahead of this front. Expect some snowfall soon in the Southern Pennines and maybe sleet or wet snow at lower levels as the evening progresses.

C

Hi C,

SO why do you think the meto have given a flash warning for the area?

Sleet maybe wet snow doesn't sound like 5 to 10cm and 15cm on hills.Surely this just simply is not going to happen.

[snowdrifter]

This evenings plans are now:-

1.Beer

2.Lights off - lamppost in view

3.Footy on the box

4.Occassional radar viewing

I love being off work !!

LOL! Just seen Blackpool DP is only 1c, so maybe the potential is there if this drops, DP's being more crucial than actual temps. I've seen snow at 5c with DP at -2!

Edited December 29, 2009 by snowdrifter

[AderynCoch]

Just when I stopped getting excited about this particular system, red warnings flash up!

Is this a late Christmas present or a cruel joke?

[SP1986]

3.2C with a dewpoint of 2C here, cant imagine it dropping off too much.

[Cecil Hogmanay Melchett]

3.2C with a dewpoint of 2C here, cant imagine it dropping off too much.

Yes little chance of snow ste that must go down as one of the most bizarre flash warning for heavy snow i have ever seen.,

Although it should be noted that the very same warning has gone out for loads of areas.

back covering exercise,aint guna happen.

[snowdrifter]

3.2C with a dewpoint of 2C here, cant imagine it dropping off too much.

Hi Stephen - how dare you argue with an 80% flash warning from the meto! :lol: promised to take kiddies to cinema, so will be thinking about DP's while watching Alvin & the Chipmunks! How sad! Back later.

[SP1986]

Without doubt, there are very few places in the band of precipitation receving anything other than sleet at the moment.

[carinthian]

Hi C,

SO why do you think the meto have given a flash warning for the area?

Sleet maybe wet snow doesn't sound like 5 to 10cm and 15cm on hills.Surely this just simply is not going to happen.

:lol:

I would imagine their snowfall prediction computer graphics are showing this. Quite feasible looking at the progress of the front, however it will soon reach its northern limit.

C

[karyo]

The reason I don't expect the second (and heavier) band reaching us is because the first band has stalled just south of Manchester. If the first one was still moving northwards there would be a better chance for the second one to make it here.

It might still do much later, but it will weaken a lot as all the major models show.

Karyo

[Cheshire Gap]

Without doubt, there are very few places in the band of precipitation receving anything other than sleet at the moment.

Cardiff have blizzards...apprently, though the traffic cams show alot of snow down there

[AderynCoch]

Yep, I've heard it's snowing in Swansea too.

[Thunder Snow]

Heavy rain shower now :lol:, starting to thaw any left over Ice and snow.

[Cecil Hogmanay Melchett]

interesting by peter gibbs has the front stalling over manchester giving a covering of snow tonight!

[Cheshire Gap]

interesting by peter gibbs has the front stalling over manchester giving a covering of snow tonight!

Would I be inclined to think then, that this band of PPN is going to stall further north then thought?

[carinthian]

interesting by peter gibbs has the front stalling over manchester giving a covering of snow tonight!

Looks about right that. Manchester is on the boundary of the colder upper air flow. Would be surprised if it advanced much further north than Manchester though.

C

[Bartlett Low]

As I mentioned last night, I can't see the front stalling here. The first front has made no northward progression since about 10am since morning. This has happened on a fair number of occassions where the front stalls / precipitation dies out 20-30 miles south of Manchester. I go for within 10-20 miles of Crewe for the stall position.

[snowman75]

just a few snow grains here in the strong wind

[robbie29]

The reason the flash warning went out were due to the unexpected speed of the low pushing up, it wasnt till it pushed further north that it met the colder air some things have shifted further north. Looks good for the Manchester and surrounding areas for this evening.

[James M]

Well the temp s falling away here, 1.8C now but not expecting any snow yet.

[robbie29]

8pm onwards i should think for any snowfalls for our area.

[Thunder Snow]

Winter Storm

Well As we draw to the end of 2009, the weather wants it to go out with a bang. A system is currently making its way up for the South-West, this is currently bringing heavy rain towards the South-West/Southern areas. 15-30mm is expected, there is a small risk of some localized flooding in these areas. However as the weather system moves further North, things will turn very interesting as it bumps into colder air. Snow is likely to fall anywhere North of the M4 corridor. At the moment it looks like Central/Eastern Wales and parts of the Midlands will see some of the worst weather, we could see several hours of heavy snow effecting these areas.

So as we move into this evening and overnight. The main band should have cleared South-Western/Southern area, however there will be a number of showers around these heavy and thundery at times.

Wales:

For western areas of Wales im expecting a mixture of rain/sleet and snow for most of the night, however for Central and Eastern Wales the weather will begin to turn interesting towards dusk. As much as 5-10cm is expected to lower ground, with as much as 30cm for higher routes. The snow is likely to fall through-out the night, This could lead to travel problems for Wednesday morning. It is also worth pointing out that, a strong Easterly wind will develop giving blizzard like conditions in place. Drifting snow is also likely to be a problems.

South-Eastern Areas/Eastern England:

A mixture of rain/sleet and snow showers are likely through-out the overnight period, these however should begin to fade towards dawn. Snow is more likely over higher-ground, however some wintriness is likely at times to lower ground. However if skies clear, there could be a problem with ice. For Eastern England there will also be a mixture of rain and sleet showers, with some snow possible across the hills. A Easterly wind will develop making it feel raw. Again ice could be a problem where showers have fallen.

Scotland:

Most of Scotland will be cold and frosty, with some snow/sleet showers towards the North-East giving a fresh covering of snow.

Northern England:

This is a hard one, im currently expecting the front to weaken and fragment as it move North. However i think there will be loads of showers of rain/sleet and snow at times. With higher amount of snow for the hills. However there could also be a dusting/covering for lower levels. I would not like to forecast any amounts lol.

Weather Warning

Areas Effected: Wales/Midlands/Central England

An area of rain has moved in from the South-West through-out the morning, but is now meeting colder air to the North. It is likely to snow across areas mentioned above for several hours, giving as much as 5-10cm to lower levels and up to 30cm over higher routes. There is likely to be travel/power problems, please stay tuned to the highways agency/local forecasts/local radio stations.

Weather Watch:

Areas Effected: Northern England/UK

Northern England: An areas of rain/sleet and snow is currently effecting Southern areas, and is likely to move further North. It is expected to weaken and fragment, but could give a covering in place high and lower ground. There is alot of uncertainty so i would not like to forecast any amount.

UK:

Areas away from the most Southern areas will see a risk of ice where showers have fallen.

Stay tuned to the forecast.

Thunder Snow

[SP1986]

Temperatures starting to decrease here, 2.4C now, snow I suppose is possible if this continues.

[cheshire snow]

Temp here 2c DP 0c come on lower a bit more PLEASE.............

C.S

[Darren Bown]

Netw radar showing band pepping up as it slowly moves north in our region

[Dingwantssnow]

Well been watching the radar since started work at 11:30. To me its been moving steadily north, to those who say it hasnt moved north for a while i would say that it has most deffinatly been moving north just been abit slow about it.