Scotland Regional Discussion - January 14th 2013>

[Benvironment]

Apologies it's a bit blurred.....but as you can see, my car decided it was a wee bit nippy in Perthshire this morning

[LomondSnowstorm]

Hi All

I am trying to work out if I should get IMBY excited or not, IYKFAM. Will east coast suffer too much mod from sea. That high res norwegian model e.g. has 4c here on Friday. Any ideas or stabs in the dark?! I know it is probabaly a difficult one to call.

Hard to say, unfortunately you're likely to on Friday at least, probably improving at times though as colder uppers move in but always a risk

[Allyw12]

Your challenge for this weekend Edo is to build an igloo for the children.

That will have them in a frenzy and ensure they remain snow lovers all their lives unlike my brood!

We will require photos of completed challenge!

That's a good idea HS I might do that with my monkeys, that's if we get any Snow.

[Highland Snow]

Typo of the week contender?

Sorry BleakMidwinter I was obviously still thinking of my earlier post to Snooz (Post #459 and #502)!

[spindrift1980]

Seems to be more snow on the Loch Morlich beach than on the hills:

http://www.winterhig...ain/morlich.php

The Strathspey side of the Cairngorms seems to have notably less than the Braemar side at the moment, which seems to have 15-30cm cover on most aspects - see photo below from http://www.sais.gov.uk/page_southern%20cairngorms.asp

This is a cracking photo too - hopefully scenes which will be replicated in Barrhead, Wishaw, Penicuik etc. in the near future!

[Highland Snow]

That's a good idea HS I might do that with my monkeys, that's if we get any Snow.

My youngest brother back home in Northern Ireland built one for his four children in December 2010 - it was really incredible and I wouldn't have believed it if he hadn't sent the pictures..

[edo]

Your challenge for this weekend Edo is to build an igloo for the children.

That will have them in a frenzy and ensure they remain snow lovers all their lives unlike my brood!

We will require photos of completed challenge!

Its funny you should say that as my friends built one in there garden at the very start of December 2010 and it lasted for ages....it was fantastic and u just reminded me so i will accept that challenge (assuming get enough raw materials)

Mayb u could build one and load it with alcohol thus impressing your older brood.... its never too late too catch the snow bug

[edo]

My youngest brother back home in Northern Ireland built one for his four children in December 2010 - it was really incredible and I wouldn't have believed it if he hadn't sent the pictures..

Post a pic iif you still have them to whet the appetite and give us creative vision

[Highland Snow]

Its funny you should say that as my friends built one in there garden at the very start of December 2010 and it lasted for ages....it was fantastic and u just reminded me so i will accept that challenge (assuming get enough raw materials)

Mayb u could build one and load it with alcohol thus impressing your older brood.... its never too late too catch the snow bug

Sadly Edo said igloo would require full central heating and a gaming PC with internet connection to shift my 16 and 18 year olds from their rooms!

[over_the_rainbow]

Looking blobby over Dundee - anything good Dundonians?

[Highland Snow]

Looking blobby over Dundee - anything good Dundonians?

The radar has been like that all day OTR even over Perth but there has been nothing falling from the sky here and nothing on the Traffic Cams re. Forfar and on up the A90 at the moment.

[over_the_rainbow]

The radar has been like that all day OTR even over Perth but there has been nothing falling from the sky here and nothing on the Traffic Cams re. Forfar and on up the A90 at the moment.

Oh! Has been a very grey day today - and also

[Highland Snow]

Oh! Has been a very grey day today - and also

Yes OTR an Ice Day! Max. Temp -0.8C at 14.02. Yippee!

[edo]

Oh! Has been a very grey day today - and also

incredibly cold for overcast....real nip in air reminded me of Decemder 2009 when was -8 and totally cloudy.... radar clearly giving false echoes so they best get that sorted for weekend or its lampies dependant

[Highland Snow]

Post a pic iif you still have them to whet the appetite and give us creative vision

Photos have been re-requested from Bro. Will post when available.

[LomondSnowstorm]

Latest Norwegian MO forecast is even better, brings frontal precipitation right across Scotland by afternoon/evening and ups the snow risk substantially for the east:

http://www.yr.no/kar...kyer&proj=3575

Edinburgh snow risk increases to around 5-7cm, Glasgow 12-15cm again, 5-7cm for the Borders, 4-6cm for Perth, and upwards of 15cm possible for East Ayrshire, all by Friday midnight.

Things particularly bad (good?) for the far west with over 2 inches falling over the course of Friday morning, coming in around rush hour and intensifying. M74 would likely be the worst affected road based on current projections.

Edited January 16, 2013 by LomondSnowstorm

[Isolated Frost]

Actually LS- that is in co-operation with the ECM- I read it on their site, will try and find the link

Talking about the ECM...

Wowza

[LomondSnowstorm]

Actually LS- that is in co-operation with the ECM- I read it on their site, will try and find the link

Talking about the ECM...

Wowza

Ah ok, I've seen an 'yrno' model on weatheronline before so is it basically the high resolution ECMWF then? That'd make a lot of sense.

[tempestwatch]

Hi all, just been reading all the ramping in the secure ward lol. What do you think snow amounts will be this Friday and weekend beyond.in Fife (Lochgelly) That front seem to want to push a little further through!

[LomondSnowstorm]

Actually LS- that is in co-operation with the ECM- I read it on their site, will try and find the link

Talking about the ECM...

Wowza

And amazing chart, interesting how the West Russian-Scandi PV segment seems to get that bit closer every run with the heights to the north strengthening. Something to watch for medium term developments.

[moffatross]

Aside from the roads, which are clear but have large piles of snow ploughings at the verges, we still have 100% snow cover in Moffat and that's all frozen, crispy solid.

A six inch top-up on Friday will make for a great skiing base in the hills.

[Isolated Frost]

Ah ok, I've seen an 'yrno' model on weatheronline before so is it basically the high resolution ECMWF then? That'd make a lot of sense.

Yep- the meteograms available on the 'hour by hour' option for each city include the hi-res ECM meteogram for each location-

EC 72 much better than yesterdays EC 96 with colder uppers and a more distinguished flow- more retrogression and accordingly, stronger heights between Greenland and Scandinavia.. and a stronger PV moving into Scandinavia.. a superb chart- wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow's yr.no updates (superb site btw, efficient Norwegians..) had some really heavy convective snow shrs over E Scotland

There is a god...

[LomondSnowstorm]

Yep- the meteograms available on the 'hour by hour' option for each city include the hi-res ECM meteogram for each location-

EC 72 much better than yesterdays EC 96 with colder uppers and a more distinguished flow- more retrogression and accordingly, stronger heights between Greenland and Scandinavia.. and a stronger PV moving into Scandinavia.. a superb chart- wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow's yr.no updates (superb site btw, efficient Norwegians..) had some really heavy convective snow shrs over E Scotland

There is a god...

Heck of a run this is, uppers great once again, another upgrade on the upper cold pool, and with reinforcements heading into Scandinavia too:

Uppers around -7C, probably just about getting away with it at that but every run it seems to be filling in with colder air:

Incredible snowfall with that chart I'd imagine.

Edited January 16, 2013 by LomondSnowstorm

[JoeShmoe]

Haha, the ECM is astonishing, days and days of snowfall if we can keep it on the right side of marginal

[Ross B]

Latest Norwegian MO forecast is even better, brings frontal precipitation right across Scotland by afternoon/evening and ups the snow risk substantially for the east:

http://www.yr.no/kar....kyer&proj=3575

Edinburgh snow risk increases to around 5-7cm, Glasgow 12-15cm again, 5-7cm for the Borders, 4-6cm for Perth, and upwards of 15cm possible for East Ayrshire, all by Friday midnight.

Things particularly bad (good?) for the far west with over 2 inches falling over the course of Friday morning, coming in around rush hour and intensifying. M74 would likely be the worst affected road based on current projections.

Typical that I move east for more snow (and work too...) and East Ayrshire (Aka where I lived for most of my life) is to be hardest hit under current projections!!! :lol: I would say the M77 will be just as badly affected as well.