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Model Output Discussion 1st Nov.2013


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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

The ingredients for a cold unsettled spell are all there, which is the main thing, at last there are perturbations showing cold and snowy outcomes from mid to late november..with a bit of luck we could get a nice surprise cold snap.Posted Image

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  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North
  • Weather Preferences: Spanish Plumes, Blizzards, Severe Frosts :-)
  • Location: Castle Black, the Wall, the North

Hope dave is ok.

Thanks for showing the failed easterly from last dec Karl!

So do I, miss his top notch posts. come back teits ....sorry about showing that epic failPosted Image

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

Good effort from the GFS in high resolution, this is only going one way from there

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Another cold shot at least

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  • Location: Gillingham, Kent
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Thunderstorms,
  • Location: Gillingham, Kent

More amplification on the GFS 12z allowing colder air to flood Southwards

 

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Toppler though, too much energy in the Northern arm of the jet

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  • Location: Darlington
  • Weather Preferences: Warm dry summers
  • Location: Darlington

Although GFS hints at something colder it don't last with high pressure and milder air swiftly coming back in

 

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2 or 3 days of colder air before a return to normal

 

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  • Location: Cardiff/Reading Uni
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Sun, Heat, Cold,T/storms via Spanish plumes *rare*
  • Location: Cardiff/Reading Uni

A little adjustment on this chart and we could see something more special! Great and positive signs! We await the ECM and ensembles..

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What I was thinking: 

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  • Location: Peterborough
  • Weather Preferences: Snow and frost in the winter. Hot and sunny, thunderstorms in the summer.
  • Location: Peterborough

A little adjustment on this chart and we could see something more special! Great and positive signs! We await the ECM and ensembles..

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What I was thinking: 

I think the high will probably topple, but more akin to the ECM op this morning with the high settling to our North east. Either way I'm a lot happier with the output, namely the zonlity we have recently experienced looks like coming to an end. Worst case scenario is mid latitude heights, best is some form of blocking high to our north. Position of course up for debate Posted Image

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  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea
  • Weather Preferences: Warm, bright summers and Cold, snowy winters
  • Location: Essex, Southend-On-Sea

what if the GFS is overdoing the low that causes the high to topple

 

Exactly what I was thinking as the GFS does seem to have a habit of doing that.

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  • Location: Leicester
  • Location: Leicester

Exactly what I was thinking as the GFS does seem to have a habit of doing that.

i think it did that earlier this year when it kept reverting back to an atlantic dominated theme because that's its general setup but the atlantic took a while to take back over!

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  • Location: hertfordshire
  • Location: hertfordshire

Unless there is more amplification from the Pacific side into the Arctic then the

GFS 12z is probably the best we are going to see for the time being.

Having said that of course the ECM 12z may come up with a much more amplified

pattern over the Arctic, we shall see.

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  • Location: Cardiff/Reading Uni
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Sun, Heat, Cold,T/storms via Spanish plumes *rare*
  • Location: Cardiff/Reading Uni

GEM is going for a north westerly

 

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Bigger view of the norther hemisphere

 

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You would probably find that low to the NE of UK sink down in to the North Sea with the high over the Atlantic ridging up further into Greenland giving us a northerly. Good end to the GEM too...

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  • Location: Cardiff/Reading Uni
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, Sun, Heat, Cold,T/storms via Spanish plumes *rare*
  • Location: Cardiff/Reading Uni

Hello Winter! We have been expecting you! Ensembles for my area...

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  • Location: STEVENAGE, HERTS (100M ASL)
  • Location: STEVENAGE, HERTS (100M ASL)

Hello Winter! We have been expecting you! Ensembles for my area...

Best ensemble set of the season! Here's to some colder, snowier OP runs...coming so a screen near you soon ðŸºâ›„ï¸â›„ï¸ðŸ˜œ
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  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire
  • Weather Preferences: Snow, storms and other extremes
  • Location: Crewe, Cheshire

Huge shift in the ensembles now to something much colder.....the thing is, without operational support can we trust them?

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  • Location: Batley, West Yorkshire
  • Weather Preferences: Heat and Snow
  • Location: Batley, West Yorkshire

Huge shift in the ensembles now to something much colder.....the thing is, without operational support can we trust them?

 

The ECM supports them :)

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