scotland Scotland Regional Weather Discussion 07/01/14

[Buriedundersnow]

little bit of hope today from the models from a cold point of view with some possible routes to snow showing and I still think later this month we will get another shot at getting something decent.

 

although we haven't had what we want its still good to see the ski centres still managing to get open with snow on the hills which is the main thing for winter to keep them in business

 

 

now I know we have started naming storms but had no idea we name blocks as well

 

 

oh why do we have to try and Americanise everything when we all know they just do these stupid things to stop the boredom between bedding cousins

 

also had to add this from America as thought it was funny

 

AccuWeather.com â€@breakingweather 55m

Slippery snow and wind to cause travel delays through Friday from the Dakotas to New York: http://ow.ly/sDAmf 

 

now I am pretty sure worldwide we all know snow is slippery  

 

check this out from Norway if you like your fish frozen

 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/it-got-so-cold-so-quickly-in-this-norweigan-bay-that-it-froze-a-bunch-of-fish-swimming-in-it-232504960.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory

 

pretty mad that happening at the temps said as it doesn't seem that cold

Edited January 16, 2014 by Buriedundersnow

[Stormeh]

Heading up to Aviemore on the 18th Feb for 3 nights for a wee break with the wife and 3 year old son. I hope to see the place covered in snow by then!

[Buriedundersnow]

GEFS 6z thrown in some good cold runs but its the 6z so cant be taken serious just now till we see more runs like this but it does throw some really decent charts in there with a few stonkers

 

 

heres some of the charts that are snowy just use your arrow keys to scroll through and enjoy

 

 

hopefully we can see this continue in future runs but as we know the GEFS 6z can have a mind of its own sometimes but one to watch

Edited January 16, 2014 by Buriedundersnow

[Hawesy]

Glorious day here in St Andrews, 8c, sunny skies, virtually no wind!

[snowy owl]

Just been out for a lovely walk, what a gorgeous day - great to see the sunshine and no wind

 

Hopeful again of future developments (all requiring the patience of a saint mind you).in the charts

[November13]

Lunchtime walk confirms it's spring in January!

[Cheggers]

Just been out for a lovely walk, what a gorgeous day - great to see the sunshine and no wind

 

Hopeful again of future developments (all requiring the patience of a saint mind you).in the charts

Hopefully it stays that way for my flight hame. Currently grey and damp here in Londonshire.

[Highland Snow]

Perhaps this is the ultimate comment on this Winter so far - Mrs HS tells me that the bird seed she has hanging out in copious quantities has gone mouldy, the birds are no longer needing it! Go figure.

[mistyqueen]

Afternoon Kilties! Lovely day here, sunshine and clear skies...more please! Liking the look of those charts BUS....we can all hope that something wintery comes from them! Thanks!

[Hairy Celt]

Perhaps this is the ultimate comment on this Winter so far - Mrs HS tells me that the bird seed she has hanging out in copious quantities has gone mouldy, the birds are no longer needing it! Go figure.

Cos it's so mild in Scandy, we've not got loads of illegal immigrants stealing your food. Or filling up the vets' surgeries, claiming nesting benefits or overcrowding avian kindergartens.

[Polar Gael]

Latest Met Office figures confirm that 'winter'* continues to be mild and dreich. 

 

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/mild-wet-winter-continues-in-early-january-figures/

 

Though not quite as mild for us Kilters as elsewhere. 

 

Good to see that the ski centres are doing well, anyway. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*soon to be renamed won'ter due to its preponderance of naw.

Edited January 16, 2014 by Polar Gael

[Buriedundersnow]

3 year old boy has gone missing in Edinburgh over night

 

EdinburghNorthPolice â€@EdinNorthPolice 30m

Dedicated phone number for anyone who has seen #MikaeelKular or has information about his whereabouts - 0300 200 0200 or call 999

 

Police Scotland â€@policescotland 10m

#MikaeelKular has faded scar on bridge of his nose & sore on left hand side of mouth. Hair may be longer than in pic: pic.twitter.com/xNNbiG5AoH

 

[Highland Snow]

Cos it's so mild in Scandy, we've not got loads of illegal immigrants stealing your food. Or filling up the vets' surgeries, claiming nesting benefits or overcrowding avian kindergartens.

[Highland Snow]

3 year old boy has gone missing in Edinburgh over night

 

EdinburghNorthPolice â€@EdinNorthPolice 30m

Dedicated phone number for anyone who has seen #MikaeelKular or has information about his whereabouts - 0300 200 0200 or call 999

 

Police Scotland â€@policescotland 10m

#MikaeelKular has faded scar on bridge of his nose & sore on left hand side of mouth. Hair may be longer than in pic: pic.twitter.com/xNNbiG5AoH

 

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Reported earlier as an internal family matter.

[blitzen]

I suppose it's somewhat comforting to see that the latest situation (chartwise) still cannot  identify a winner between mild or cold? It makes me so jealous that the USA forecasters have stated for what seems like days now that another, probably worse cold spell, is due to begin there sometime next week and will probably last for between 12-20 days.  They appear to be so confident in the forecast that they are already preparing.  Spot the difference!   I know that, like Europe, it's a large landmass without the sea interference, but wouldn't it be great to know with some certainty what was coming. Anyway, I was hoping for an answer to something that is in the back of my mind.......We all, more so westerners and southerners, remember the seemingly endless storminess that invaded our shores a few weeks back, indeed many are still suffering. If, as has been stated, that it was due to the extreme cold in the USA firing up the jet over the warmth of the Atlantic carrying these storms, then are we due for a repeat performance because of more extreme cold in the USA?

Edited January 16, 2014 by Blitzen

[Northernlights]

Great calm sunny day which started off with a ground frost coming in at dawn and lasting all day in the shaded areas with a maximum temperature of 5c .Currently 1c with ground frost setting in.

[blitzen]

I can't post the charts I have saved, but the 12z ECM has blown the lid on HLB. It's strapped a thermonuclear device to the lid and used a hammer to detonate it.

Lovely, isn't it! Sorry! last chart should have been in first place. (192 850s)

Edited January 16, 2014 by Blitzen

[Buriedundersnow]

I can't post the charts I have saved, but the 12z ECM has blown the lid on HLB. It's strapped a thermonuclear device to the lid and used a hammer to detonate it.

 

Here we go, a quick copy and paste will do. I've put in the before and after

 

 

 

 

that may be similar to the pattern we will see its a pattern that has been creeping into the models with the big Aleutian ridge

[snow1975]

I suppose it's somewhat comforting to see that the latest situation (chartwise) still cannot  identify a winner between mild or cold? It makes me so jealous that the USA forecasters have stated for what seems like days now that another, probably worse cold spell, is due to begin there sometime next week and will probably last for between 12-20 days.  They appear to be so confident in the forecast that they are already preparing.  Spot the difference!   I know that, like Europe, it's a large landmass without the sea interference, but wouldn't it be great to know with some certainty what was coming. Anyway, I was hoping for an answer to something that is in the back of my mind.......We all, more so westerners and southerners, remember the seemingly endless storminess that invaded our shores a few weeks back, indeed many are still suffering. If, as has been stated, that it was due to the extreme cold in the USA firing up the jet over the warmth of the Atlantic carrying these storms, then are we due for a repeat performance because of more extreme cold in the USA?

The short answer is yes. The last ECM12z chart shows the Altantic breaking through. The GFS12z becomes zonal with deep lows and stormy weather before the Azores high moves north in FI and it becomes very mild and yuk!

 

Edited January 16, 2014 by snow1975

[LomondSnowstorm]

The short answer is yes. The last ECM12z chart shows the Altantic breaking through. The GFS12z becomes zonal with deep lows and stormy weather before the Azores high moves north in FI and it becomes very mild and yuk!

 

 

The thing is though all we need once the jet does power up is a bit of amplification upstream - with the models picking up on an Arctic high for the first time it wouldn't take much for our Azores high to ridge northwards into Greenland with the troughing shifting from Canada to Scandinavia and bringing in some sustained cold. The PV is so disrupted at this point that I seriously doubt we could see a return to full on zonality, whether or not we get lucky with the remnant vortex positioning is a different issue though:

 

 

We also have the advantage of having a euro trough in place - this will draw the jet SE and encourage the undercut so if/when the jet does power up our block is less likely to be a 'sinker'

Some fine potential tonight, fraught with risk as ever but it does look as though the bigger picture might be about to fall into place for really the first time this winter.

[blitzen]

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Edited January 16, 2014 by Blitzen

[blitzen]

Sorry, you beat me to it Snow 1975!

[blitzen]

Deleted.

 

Deleted (again) Sorry folks.....gremlins!

Edited January 16, 2014 by Blitzen

[tinybill]

there looks like a  lot  of heavy showers in my area to-night  acc  to my rain alarm

[Polar Gael]

Deleted (again) Sorry folks.....gremlins!

 

Have you been feeding them Lochgelly mogwai after midnight again, Blitzen?

 

Maybe they've taken over the models all winter as well!