North West England - Weather Chat

[itsnowjoke]

You can tell we are not expecting much if any snow as the mood here is

[Chris.R]

Yes happy Candlemas day to one and all. It was a dry day, So winter will have a sting in the tail as the proverb says.

[damianslaw]

Whilst the current outlook is preety benign, with the lack of strong winds/storms, heavy rain, or snow, it is certainly good is you like winter to feel like winter... Its a cold outlook with maxes and mins below seasonal average, mins significantly so. Far far far better than mild westerlies and southwesterly dross, over the top mild southerlies, cloudy raw southeasterlies and easterlies. Its been ages since we have had a sustained settled dry sunny spell, indeed the sunshine is just the tonic at this time of year.. I'm perplexed why there are down faces, its probably because we are the only part of England with no weather warnings and have least chance of snow in the coming days.. its time for the east to have there share for now...

[Mokidugway]

You can tell we are not expecting much if any snow as the mood here is

I like spring , can get out in garden ,summers better though ..

[twinmum99]

I like spring , can get out in garden ,summers better though ..

I'm with you on that one

[HotCuppa]

Low ground, around the south of the region, pretty much forget it tonight. Still be a few low clouds and similar temperatures to last night.

Tomorrow morning, we might and thats a big 'if' right now, if we still have really low dp's when the precip tries to slip in from the west

we might see some snow, it depends on the irish sea and what it wants to do 

Edited February 2, 2015 by HotCuppa

[I Cumbria Marra I]

Whilst the current outlook is preety benign, with the lack of strong winds/storms, heavy rain, or snow, it is certainly good is you like winter to feel like winter... Its a cold outlook with maxes and mins below seasonal average, mins significantly so. Far far far better than mild westerlies and southwesterly dross, over the top mild southerlies, cloudy raw southeasterlies and easterlies. Its been ages since we have had a sustained settled dry sunny spell, indeed the sunshine is just the tonic at this time of year.. I'm perplexed why there are down faces, its probably because we are the only part of England with no weather warnings and have least chance of snow in the coming days.. its time for the east to have there share for now...

STAHP! 

[shelly 73]

Oh I'm just fed up with it doing nothing. It's not been sunny here just dull. No rise or fall in temperature. As such. Stuck between -3. To 1.5. I'm happy that a lot of people are getting snow. But it really isn't doing anything and hasn't since last week. And I checked it out it really is ground hog day. Ha ha.

[I Cumbria Marra I]

The midlands especially the east is one the best places for weather in the uk i think, snowier than most places, warmer in spring/summer than most places, thunderstorms galore.

[shelly 73]

[Mokidugway]

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lol would I lie to you ,it's an Americanisation of Candlemas !!..

The midlands especially the east is one the best places for weather in the uk i think, snowier than most places, warmer in spring/summer than most places, thunderstorms galore.

unlike the Cumbrian coast which is utter crap for anything !!.

[shelly 73]

Depends if you said watch out . 10 foot of snow heading your way. I definitely wouldn't believe you. ( mite have a sneaky check on the forecast first though ).

[Mokidugway]

Depends if you said watch out . 10 foot of snow heading your way. I definitely wouldn't believe you. ( mite have a sneaky check on the forecast first though ).

lol ...

[Will Padz]

Clear skies and temp dropping.....-4c......

[SnoopDog1982]

Clear skies and temp dropping.....-4c......

 

Easily below -10 for your part of the Country tonight chief!

[AderynCoch]

I like this weather but in terms of snow it's been disappointing given the potential. Just too damn marginal (wouldn't have taken much more for some proper snow here). And where are the strong winds to help the showers over the Pennines now that they're coming from the other direction? In fact we may have been on the right side of marginal last week had the NWerly winds not been so strong.

 

We've struggled for much of winter with the low to our north being too far west, resulting in a longer westerly track and more modified (i.e less cold) air coming our way. All it needed to do was be slightly farther east and we would have had a more direct northerly swinging NWerly into the Irish Sea. And now the damn flow is too straight! Well actually that wouldn't be too much of a problem if all that talk about unstable airflows bringing embedded troughs and polar lows was still going on but barring a surprise we're suddenly looking at a bone-dry outlook.

 

The one thing to hold onto is that there might be better opportunities to come, but right now Sod's Law rules.

 

Moan over. At least it's not mild.

[SnoopDog1982]

Some one correct me if I'm wrong but is the lack of frost during this cold spell because the dew temps are so low, hence dryer air?

[Nick L]

Some one correct me if I'm wrong but is the lack of frost during this cold spell because the dew temps are so low, hence dryer air?

 

Yup

[SnoopDog1982]

Yup

 

Cheers for that, I'm learning slowly! 

[feb1991blizzard]

Crap again im afraid.

[feb1991blizzard]

Models starting to hint at a cold NW Wind - Look on ECM (currently -2.9C - after a flurry 7pm dry with 40cm snow).

Knew it wouldn't stay dry for long

 

 

Will we get enough amplification upstream though to avoid it being a slushfest and end up a potent blast?, I tend to favour this route though (although it goes against all my principles) because even if it fails its better than having a failed Easterly with a high sat over us and wasting 2 weeks then sinking (this might not waste as much time), plus this route ties in with the strat more although im not liking the strat forecasts at all in FI.

[SparkleS]

I really dont know how you read those models!!!

[James M]

Well as it's looking a bit quiet for our region snow wise, I thought I would post a few snowy pic from the last few days.

Edited February 2, 2015 by James M

[feb1991blizzard]

I really dont know how you read those models!!!

 

 

A very very brief and basic tutorial on Arctic / polar blasts, im sure you got a lot of of snow on 17th Dec 210, here are the charts in the lead up to that, notice how far up into the Arctic the High heights (bright yellows) got.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And ultimately displaced really frigid cold air south, this was the chart that got the NW coast of England absolutely blasted.

 

 

 

 

Compare that to the feeble effort we have just had.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DemonDaz]

I really dont know how you read those models!!!

Color = temperature

The dashed line is "the snow line" -5 isotherm (not always needed for snow)

H high pressure and rotates clockwise ie follow the lines round to the right

L low pressure rotates anticlockwise wise follow the lines left and look through what temperature air masses it moves through as both drag air along the iso bars

Tighter the bars the stronger airflow is

Those are extreme basics of the 850 chart