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  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
  • Weather Preferences: Columus Bigus Convectivus
  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl

The reason the tungsten white balance was mentioned.

 That is the WB setting I found it to be the 'sweet spot setting'  with a light pollution filter fitted,
 especially how faint (brightness 1) they have appeared over the last couple of seasons.

Post editing comprises of local contrast via Photoscape for enhancement (which i added to this mornings Starvisor Irbit no.2 photo from Russia)

Tonight's forecast is for clear skies and with the clouds daily clockwise transit of 72° these clouds should be over the Ireland, West of Scotland longitude 8°W

Heads up and happy hunting🙂

Edit; latest indications from Oswin and Maarsy are encouraging

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  • Location: chellaston, derby
  • Weather Preferences: The Actual Weather ..... not fantasy.
  • Location: chellaston, derby
1 hour ago, Arnie Pie said:

The reason the tungsten white balance was mentioned.

 That is the WB setting I found it to be the 'sweet spot setting'  with a light pollution filter fitted,
 especially how faint (brightness 1) they have appeared over the last couple of seasons.

Post editing comprises of local contrast via Photoscape for enhancement (which i added to this mornings Starvisor Irbit no.2 photo from Russia)

Tonight's forecast is for clear skies and with the clouds daily clockwise transit of 72° these clouds should be over the Ireland, West of Scotland longitude 8°W

Heads up and happy hunting🙂

Edit; latest indications from Oswin and Maarsy are encouraging

You mean theres a possible sighting tonight?... interesting..

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  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
  • Weather Preferences: Columus Bigus Convectivus
  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
48 minutes ago, mushymanrob said:

You mean theres a possible sighting tonight?

Original screenshot from this morning unedited

Could contain: Nature, Outdoors, Sky, Purple, Night, Scenery, Landscape

We`ll after enhancement, im now confident that the russia photo contains faint NLC`s.
There are bands with sharp edges and an undulating wave structure which can be seen when zooming in

The camera`s located at 63°E, so using the transit theory these NLC`s should be over 8°W around midnight tonight

 So yes I`m expecting some faint sighting early doors tonight maybe which only visible with a camera🙂

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  • Location: chellaston, derby
  • Weather Preferences: The Actual Weather ..... not fantasy.
  • Location: chellaston, derby
1 hour ago, Arnie Pie said:

Original screenshot from this morning unedited

Could contain: Nature, Outdoors, Sky, Purple, Night, Scenery, Landscape

We`ll after enhancement, im now confident that the russia photo contains faint NLC`s.
There are bands with sharp edges and an undulating wave structure which can be seen when zooming in

The camera`s located at 63°E, so using the transit theory these NLC`s should be over 8°W around midnight tonight

 So yes I`m expecting some faint sighting early doors tonight maybe which only visible with a camera🙂

Derby is 1 degree west... any good?..lol

 

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  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
  • Weather Preferences: Columus Bigus Convectivus
  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
22 minutes ago, mushymanrob said:

any good?..lol

Possibly not with your eyesight Bob😉

i`m going to set up a stream for this evening maybe live but with live updates from my big camera

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  • Location: chellaston, derby
  • Weather Preferences: The Actual Weather ..... not fantasy.
  • Location: chellaston, derby
1 minute ago, Arnie Pie said:

Possibly not with your eyesight Bob😉

i dont mind using my camera..lol smarphone

also, possible aurora...

 

1 hour ago, Arnie Pie said:

Original screenshot from this morning unedited

Could contain: Nature, Outdoors, Sky, Purple, Night, Scenery, Landscape

We`ll after enhancement, im now confident that the russia photo contains faint NLC`s.
There are bands with sharp edges and an undulating wave structure which can be seen when zooming in

The camera`s located at 63°E, so using the transit theory these NLC`s should be over 8°W around midnight tonight

 So yes I`m expecting some faint sighting early doors tonight maybe which only visible with a camera🙂

i might pinch that pic if thats ok?

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  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
  • Weather Preferences: Columus Bigus Convectivus
  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl

Pinch the edited one which i posted this morning , they are more obvious👍

Yes completely missed the Arora looking for e pesky NCL`s😂

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  • Location: chellaston, derby
  • Weather Preferences: The Actual Weather ..... not fantasy.
  • Location: chellaston, derby
59 minutes ago, Arnie Pie said:

Pinch the edited one which i posted this morning , they are more obvious👍

Yes completely missed the Arora looking for e pesky NCL`s😂

actually, checking the coordinates, there was a town north of where that picture was taken off the webcam.. so it might be illuminated normal cloud?

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  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
  • Weather Preferences: Columus Bigus Convectivus
  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl

If that was the case then they would have had to be illumiated alto cumulus clouds to produce the classic undulating wave structure on show in the image.

i`m also sure that you would be able to see the massive glow needed to illuminate these clouds ( Irbit is a russian town with a population of less than 40,000 )

The time this was taken was right in the middle of nautical twilight 04.00, classic timing for viewing NCL`s

here`s a photo from 40 minutes later as it approached daybreak

Could contain: Purple, Nature, Outdoors, Sky, Scenery, Night, Landscape

No alto cumulus clouds to be seen

No massive glow from a town a little bit bigger than Bromsgrove

No doubt in My mind Bob

 

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  • Location: chellaston, derby
  • Weather Preferences: The Actual Weather ..... not fantasy.
  • Location: chellaston, derby
5 minutes ago, Arnie Pie said:

If that was the case then they would have had to be illumiated alto cumulus clouds to produce the classic undulating wave structure on show in the image.

i`m also sure that you would be able to see the massive glow needed to illuminate these clouds ( Irbit is a russian town with a population of less than 40,000 )

The time this was taken was right in the middle of nautical twilight 04.00, classic timing for viewing NCL`s

here`s a photo from 40 minutes later as it approached daybreak

Could contain: Purple, Nature, Outdoors, Sky, Scenery, Night, Landscape

No alto cumulus clouds to be seen

No massive glow from a town a little bit bigger than Bromsgrove

No doubt in My mind Bob

 

fair play ... its the lack of stars that someone mentioned that sowed the seeds of doubt! lol

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  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms & Snow
  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)
4 hours ago, Arnie Pie said:

Original screenshot from this morning unedited

Could contain: Nature, Outdoors, Sky, Purple, Night, Scenery, Landscape

We`ll after enhancement, im now confident that the russia photo contains faint NLC`s.
There are bands with sharp edges and an undulating wave structure which can be seen when zooming in

The camera`s located at 63°E, so using the transit theory these NLC`s should be over 8°W around midnight tonight

 So yes I`m expecting some faint sighting early doors tonight maybe which only visible with a camera🙂

I like your confidence, very clear outside at the minute too!

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  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
  • Weather Preferences: Columus Bigus Convectivus
  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
On 26/06/2022 at 00:03, mushymanrob said:

Yes there is but they are faint.

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fair play ... its the lack of stars that someone mentioned that sowed the seeds of doubt! lol

Sorry Rob but it possible to catch faint NCL`s without any stars being visible, especially around the start and end of nautical twilight, when coming out an into  civil twilight

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  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms & Snow
  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)
49 minutes ago, Arnie Pie said:

fair play ... its the lack of stars that someone mentioned that sowed the seeds of doubt! lol

Sorry Rob but it possible to catch faint NCL`s without any stars being visible, especially around the start and end of nautical twilight, when coming out an into  civil twilight

Could contain: Outdoors, Nature, Sky, Lighting, Night

IAP cameras making me question whether or not it is 

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  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
  • Weather Preferences: Columus Bigus Convectivus
  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl

Another example when the stars weren't visible

Could contain: Nature, Outdoors, Night, Storm, Architecture, Building, Tower, Lightning, Thunderstorm, Weather

 

Anyway i've started a live stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooPxb_ZBZ9E

Its a bit experimental with the new manual settings but we`ll no when the stars come out (or not😂)

but a new image will be uploaded every 5 mins or so👍

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  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl
  • Weather Preferences: Columus Bigus Convectivus
  • Location: Birmingham, Harborne 160 asl

Ending the stream folks its using to much of my PC`s resources up

staying up will let you know if anything shows🙂

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  • Location: chellaston, derby
  • Weather Preferences: The Actual Weather ..... not fantasy.
  • Location: chellaston, derby
On 17/05/2023 at 19:32, Arnie Pie said:

A little more overthinking and searching on the subject of how to forecast Noctilucent clouds without the use of the Aim satellite daisy


Using the fact that the clouds trans-navigate the Artic circle every 5 days in a clockwise direction, which equates to 72° Longitude every day

So we could expect to see NCL`s over the UK axis( prime meridian),
 if they are seen the night before at a longitude of 72°E and 2 nights before at a longitude of 144°E,
3 nights before at a longitude of 144°W,
4 nights before at a longitude of 72°W

Using all of the links which you supplied i have found a few North facing web cams, on or around these Longitudes, which may help us.
My idea about a Japanese cams did not come to fruition
None of the cams on the North island of Japan were pointing Northwards

So there are a couple of webcams in Russia (which are at a more favourable Latitude than Japan to view NCL`s)

1 Day out at 72°E
camera from starvisor ru
Link; https://starvisor.ru/nur/  which is located at 76°E

2 days out at 144°E
Camera from Geocam.ru
link; https://www.geocam.ru/en/online/lensk-webcam/ at 115°E
or
https://www.geocam.ru/en/online/kamchatka-volcanoes/  at 158°E
( still looking for one in between these camera`s)

3 days out at 144°W
Camera from explore.org
link; https://explore.org/livecams/zen-den/aurora-cam  at 147°W

4 days out at 72°W
camera from metroblue.com
link; https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webcams/quebec_canada_6325494
or
https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webcams/quebec_canada_6325494  both at 71°W

I am sure that we will be using the local European webcams for 'Now' forecasting, however it`s still nice to have a couple of days notice of any events
feel free to add to any webcams on these longitudes.

I hope this image below helps explain

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Ideally a webcam at 72' east and 50 odd degrees North would be best.... but lets try the old webcam spotting...

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  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms & Snow
  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)


first NLCs of the year 

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  • Location: North Cornwall 187ft asl
  • Weather Preferences: Atlantic Storms, Thunder & Lightning, Snow.
  • Location: North Cornwall 187ft asl
On 21/05/2023 at 09:13, mushymanrob said:

Ideally a webcam at 72' east and 50 odd degrees North would be best.... but lets try the old webcam spotting...

That's Kazakhstan region

 

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  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)
  • Weather Preferences: Thunderstorms & Snow
  • Location: Herne Bay, Kent (14 m)

Think first sighting in UK last year was 27th so 21st isn't too bad!

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